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Pilots were surprised https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2422543/no-signs-of-alarm-before-plane-crash-in-vilnius-audio-recording-shows https://www.lrt.lt

Pilots were surprised https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2422543/no-signs-of-alarm-before-plane-crash-in-vilnius-audio-recording-shows https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2422543/no-signs-of... this is the best angle so far (it's linked to in your link as well) https://youtu.be/MXyXgSu5CBE https://youtu.be/MXyXgSu5CBE https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1gzhfx2/another_angle_of_dhl_crash_in_vilnius/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1gzhfx2/another_a... "Plane... skidded several hundred metres" https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241125-dhl-cargo-plane-crashes-in-lithuania-killing-one https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241125-dhl-cargo-pla...

piva00 2y ago
Nothing in these videos indicate your initial statement though, there's no visible damage before the crash so I'm still puzzled on how you reached that initial conclusion. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that right now there's nothing I see to support there was an earlier explosion as you stated. > The explosions triggered way before crash
- gsf_emergency 2y ago
  Sorry I should have added that bit was my own deduction.. Since the explosion you see did not seem to be due to impact with treeline (seems to me plane stayed on the landing path until point of explosion ) https://youtu.be/uaDYV9IxJLo https://youtu.be/uaDYV9IxJLo
  - piva00 2y ago
    No worries, I was trying to see if there was something public already indicating it since I'm also quite suspicious after Germany had reported finding a package in Frankfurt airport which could ignite and seemed like sabotage. Thanks for clarifying!
orbital-decay 2y ago
They shouldn't have been in the point of impact in any case, so the root cause was something way before the impact, and cannot be seen on the video. Above in this thread is a link with the ATC recording, in which the pilot gives incorrect readbacks, indicating a typical CFIT where they just assumed all is fine until the last second when they tried to maneuver out of this. Hence the obvious surprise. The video seems to show they hit something at the tree top or streetlight level after the last second pullup/dive/bank/whatever that maneuver was.

piva00 2y ago

Nothing in these videos indicate your initial statement though, there's no visible damage before the crash so I'm still puzzled on how you reached that initial conclusion. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that right now there's nothing I see to support there was an earlier explosion as you stated. > The explosions triggered way before crash

gsf_emergency 2y ago
Sorry I should have added that bit was my own deduction.. Since the explosion you see did not seem to be due to impact with treeline (seems to me plane stayed on the landing path until point of explosion ) https://youtu.be/uaDYV9IxJLo https://youtu.be/uaDYV9IxJLo
- piva00 2y ago
  No worries, I was trying to see if there was something public already indicating it since I'm also quite suspicious after Germany had reported finding a package in Frankfurt airport which could ignite and seemed like sabotage. Thanks for clarifying!

orbital-decay 2y ago

They shouldn't have been in the point of impact in any case, so the root cause was something way before the impact, and cannot be seen on the video. Above in this thread is a link with the ATC recording, in which the pilot gives incorrect readbacks, indicating a typical CFIT where they just assumed all is fine until the last second when they tried to maneuver out of this. Hence the obvious surprise. The video seems to show they hit something at the tree top or streetlight level after the last second pullup/dive/bank/whatever that maneuver was.