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I understand why it is still popular, I first used it at my current job and for the life of me I do not understand how people put up with it. It is one of the w

I understand why it is still popular, I first used it at my current job and for the life of me I do not understand how people put up with it. It is one of the worst applications I use in my daily work life.

dec0dedab0de 2y ago
Almost 20 years ago, I remember getting in an argument with a new manager who was pushing for the company to use Exchange “because that’s what businesses do” Then about 5 years ago something similar happened at another company when I was against 365. Their argument was “I know it sucks, but that’s microsoft’s preferred way” There are a lot of people with decision making power that base their decisions solely on marketing material.
- larsnystrom 2y ago
  But what options are there? You pretty much must choose between Microsoft 365 or Google Workspace.
  - dec0dedab0de 2y ago
    postfix and dovecot with an smtp relay service, and let people use whatever client they want, or that comes with their OS. I’m kidding, I know that nobody runs programs on their own computers anymore.
oniony 2y ago
Then you should think yourself lucky that you've never had to use Lotus Notes.
- pridkett 2y ago
  Yes, but I also remember in 2007 how I could just pound through hundreds of emails on a flight (this was pre-Internet days) and when I landed all my sent messages would just magically get sent. Sure some IMAP clients had the concept of an outbox when they couldn’t connect to send an email, but I never found one that worked as well as Lotus Notes. Fantastic master-master replication distributed database with a very poor email client built on top.
lifestyleguru 2y ago
Opposing Microsoft products and services is career ending attitude in the enterprise environment. Bill and Steve (the other one) are not such nice guys as many think.
financetechbro 2y ago
I believe most people, including myself, don’t have a choice in the matter…

dec0dedab0de 2y ago

Almost 20 years ago, I remember getting in an argument with a new manager who was pushing for the company to use Exchange “because that’s what businesses do” Then about 5 years ago something similar happened at another company when I was against 365. Their argument was “I know it sucks, but that’s microsoft’s preferred way” There are a lot of people with decision making power that base their decisions solely on marketing material.

larsnystrom 2y ago
But what options are there? You pretty much must choose between Microsoft 365 or Google Workspace.
- dec0dedab0de 2y ago
  postfix and dovecot with an smtp relay service, and let people use whatever client they want, or that comes with their OS. I’m kidding, I know that nobody runs programs on their own computers anymore.

oniony 2y ago

Then you should think yourself lucky that you've never had to use Lotus Notes.

pridkett 2y ago
Yes, but I also remember in 2007 how I could just pound through hundreds of emails on a flight (this was pre-Internet days) and when I landed all my sent messages would just magically get sent. Sure some IMAP clients had the concept of an outbox when they couldn’t connect to send an email, but I never found one that worked as well as Lotus Notes. Fantastic master-master replication distributed database with a very poor email client built on top.

lifestyleguru 2y ago

Opposing Microsoft products and services is career ending attitude in the enterprise environment. Bill and Steve (the other one) are not such nice guys as many think.

financetechbro 2y ago

I believe most people, including myself, don’t have a choice in the matter…