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What is "WinDev"? A quick search didn't turn up much except a French Wikipedia article.

by quietbritishjim 2y ago

pjmlp 2y ago
Windows Development, per opposition to DevDiv, Developer Division. Two quite common names in the Microsoft ecosystem.
- loup-vaillant 2y ago
  For a moment there I thought you were referring to this trademark: https://pcsoft.fr/windev/index.html https://pcsoft.fr/windev/index.html Which was known at a time for having young women in light clothing in their marketing material.
  - jcelerier 2y ago
    aha, that's the windev that comes to mind too. I didn't know they were actually a french company, wild that they're still around... their ads were plastered everywere in the 2000s. Apparently they have a programming language for which you can "one-click-switch" between english and french for the keywords??? https://pcsoft.fr/windev/ebook/56/ https://pcsoft.fr/windev/ebook/56/
    - voidfunc 2y ago
      That's actually kind of neat, also I love how the brochure uses the American flag for English...
      - xbar 2y ago
        Yes. I would have preferred that they had used Canadian flags for both.
- asveikau 2y ago
  As a former MS employee some time ago I don't think I ever heard "windev". It was always referred to as "Windows". Though there were a lot of different groups within that, so sometimes you'd hear an initialism for a specific team. For example during some of my time there was a big organizational split between "core" and more UI oriented teams.
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  - pjmlp 2y ago
    Here is an example in the press, with an email from Somasegar, leader of developer division in the past. https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-splits-up-its-xaml-team-whats-the-fallout/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-splits-up-its-xaml-t...
    - asveikau 2y ago
      I was an employee in Windows on the date of that email. I left a few months later. Note that the email itself doesn't say "windev". It says "Windows" a bunch of times. If I'm stretching this "windev" thing, the domain for a lot of employee accounts (including mine) was NTDEV, that had a longer history afaik, nobody called an org that..
      - pjmlp 2y ago
        The journalist writes it though, as do many other folks. I didn't come up with this definition myself. If I am not mistaken, I can probably even dig some Sinosfky references using it.
        int_19h 2y ago
        I think it was sort of externally derived based on "DevDiv", but as another former MS employee - albeit from DevDiv - I can confirm that "WinDev" is not something that was routinely used inside the company the way "DevDiv" is. Usually it's just "Windows", or "Windows org" if the context is ambiguous.

What is "WinDev"? A quick search didn't turn up much except a French Wikipedia article.

pjmlp 2y ago

Windows Development, per opposition to DevDiv, Developer Division. Two quite common names in the Microsoft ecosystem.

loup-vaillant 2y ago
For a moment there I thought you were referring to this trademark: https://pcsoft.fr/windev/index.html https://pcsoft.fr/windev/index.html Which was known at a time for having young women in light clothing in their marketing material.
- jcelerier 2y ago
  aha, that's the windev that comes to mind too. I didn't know they were actually a french company, wild that they're still around... their ads were plastered everywere in the 2000s. Apparently they have a programming language for which you can "one-click-switch" between english and french for the keywords??? https://pcsoft.fr/windev/ebook/56/ https://pcsoft.fr/windev/ebook/56/
  - voidfunc 2y ago
    That's actually kind of neat, also I love how the brochure uses the American flag for English...
    - xbar 2y ago
      Yes. I would have preferred that they had used Canadian flags for both.
asveikau 2y ago
As a former MS employee some time ago I don't think I ever heard "windev". It was always referred to as "Windows". Though there were a lot of different groups within that, so sometimes you'd hear an initialism for a specific team. For example during some of my time there was a big organizational split between "core" and more UI oriented teams.
- deleted 2y ago
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- pjmlp 2y ago
  Here is an example in the press, with an email from Somasegar, leader of developer division in the past. https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-splits-up-its-xaml-team-whats-the-fallout/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-splits-up-its-xaml-t...
  - asveikau 2y ago
    I was an employee in Windows on the date of that email. I left a few months later. Note that the email itself doesn't say "windev". It says "Windows" a bunch of times. If I'm stretching this "windev" thing, the domain for a lot of employee accounts (including mine) was NTDEV, that had a longer history afaik, nobody called an org that..
    - pjmlp 2y ago
      The journalist writes it though, as do many other folks. I didn't come up with this definition myself. If I am not mistaken, I can probably even dig some Sinosfky references using it.
      - int_19h 2y ago
        I think it was sort of externally derived based on "DevDiv", but as another former MS employee - albeit from DevDiv - I can confirm that "WinDev" is not something that was routinely used inside the company the way "DevDiv" is. Usually it's just "Windows", or "Windows org" if the context is ambiguous.