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There are virtually no unconnected places in most of Europe yet wilderness is still dangerous. It is good that rescue services can help you if accident happens

by Gare 2y ago

There are virtually no unconnected places in most of Europe yet wilderness is still dangerous. It is good that rescue services can help you if accident happens (and it can happen even to the adequatly prepared).

rafram 2y ago
Definitely. But when Apple released their Satellite SOS feature, I expected that to remain the cutting edge for a while, and for all devices to eventually gain very limited satellite emergency call capabilities. Instead, it seems like we’re going straight from most devices having zero connectivity in the (US) wilderness to all devices having connectivity everywhere in the world, as soon as next year. That’s a lot of change to come all at once.
- okdood64 2y ago
  Sounds like the future. And a good one at that. The pros far outweigh the cons. If someone can't disconnect purposefully to be with nature, then that's on them.
growt 2y ago
„There are no unconnected places in most of Europe“ Then you haven’t traveled with the German railway yet!
- elliotec 2y ago
  Or, like, any space outside of a dense city :D
71bw 2y ago
>There are virtually no unconnected places in most of Europe yet wilderness is still dangerous. eg. 50.30819551805026, 16.50959758078629
- rafram 2y ago
  Why that example? It doesn't look very remote to me.
  - 71bw 2y ago
    Sorry, forgot to add the crucial details. Such is the life while close to quitting work for the day. The location, despite not being remote, has NO connectivity. It's the closest thing I can think of in my proximity that is completely unconnected. You're lucky to get GPRS there in terms of data, and most likely you won't even be able to place a call.[1] There is no broadband/fibre or any other sort of physical network connected to the buildings in the area.[2] The only way of connecting the place aside from Starlink that I've found is other satellite options[3], and it's most likely going to be 6 times as expensive and 50 times slower. [1] Anegdotal evidence, based on many devices on two of Poland's most prominent carriers when it comes to infrastructure - Orange/T-Mobile (shared NetWorkS! project) and Plus [2] https://internet.gov.pl/map/?center=1839972.2603685544%3B6498952.727787701&zoom=18.019687673721986 https://internet.gov.pl/map/?center=1839972.2603685544%3B649... [3] https://www.dostawcy-internetu.pl/Dwukierunkowy-Internet-Satelitarny/Dolnoslaskie,klodzki,Mloty.html https://www.dostawcy-internetu.pl/Dwukierunkowy-Internet-Sat...

by Gare 2y ago

rafram 2y ago

Definitely. But when Apple released their Satellite SOS feature, I expected that to remain the cutting edge for a while, and for all devices to eventually gain very limited satellite emergency call capabilities. Instead, it seems like we’re going straight from most devices having zero connectivity in the (US) wilderness to all devices having connectivity everywhere in the world, as soon as next year. That’s a lot of change to come all at once.

okdood64 2y ago
Sounds like the future. And a good one at that. The pros far outweigh the cons. If someone can't disconnect purposefully to be with nature, then that's on them.

growt 2y ago

„There are no unconnected places in most of Europe“ Then you haven’t traveled with the German railway yet!

elliotec 2y ago
Or, like, any space outside of a dense city :D

71bw 2y ago

>There are virtually no unconnected places in most of Europe yet wilderness is still dangerous. eg. 50.30819551805026, 16.50959758078629

rafram 2y ago
Why that example? It doesn't look very remote to me.
- 71bw 2y ago
  Sorry, forgot to add the crucial details. Such is the life while close to quitting work for the day. The location, despite not being remote, has NO connectivity. It's the closest thing I can think of in my proximity that is completely unconnected. You're lucky to get GPRS there in terms of data, and most likely you won't even be able to place a call.[1] There is no broadband/fibre or any other sort of physical network connected to the buildings in the area.[2] The only way of connecting the place aside from Starlink that I've found is other satellite options[3], and it's most likely going to be 6 times as expensive and 50 times slower. [1] Anegdotal evidence, based on many devices on two of Poland's most prominent carriers when it comes to infrastructure - Orange/T-Mobile (shared NetWorkS! project) and Plus [2] https://internet.gov.pl/map/?center=1839972.2603685544%3B6498952.727787701&zoom=18.019687673721986 https://internet.gov.pl/map/?center=1839972.2603685544%3B649... [3] https://www.dostawcy-internetu.pl/Dwukierunkowy-Internet-Satelitarny/Dolnoslaskie,klodzki,Mloty.html https://www.dostawcy-internetu.pl/Dwukierunkowy-Internet-Sat...