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Also, Wikipedia was blocked without any notice in advance. It was an initiative of Russian administrators with voting taking place on July, 9-th. Vote quickly p

by cabirum 14y ago

Also, Wikipedia was blocked without any notice in advance. It was an initiative of Russian administrators with voting taking place on July, 9-th. Vote quickly passed and Wikipedia was blocked on the next day (10-th). It is an organized attempt to use Wikipedia as a tool for opposition's political means, not a people's fight for freedom.

van_gogh 14y ago
You look like pro-Putin "Nashi" youth organisation member trashing the Internet with their prepaid comments.
guard-of-terra 14y ago
Guess what. Wikipedia does what it wants to do. You do not like it, you might use any other wikipedia.
cabirum 14y ago
Exactly this. But Russian admins do not own Wikipedia and abused their power to pursue their own goals.
- guard-of-terra 14y ago
  Who owns Wikipedia? It's the people who spend time on it, whether we like what they do or not. If they chose to oppose the law, maybe it tells us something, don't you think?
- cabirum 14y ago
  Like I said, they did not give people time to vote, nor did they provide any notice of the planned actions beforehand.
  - guard-of-terra 14y ago
    We'll be more than happy to hear any real wikipedia contributors' points on the subject. We're not happy to hear for random people who aren't active contributors to wikipedia but still think wikipedia owes something to them. They don't technically need to have all the "85 rouble party" crowd to do the voting before deciding anything. It's not how wikipedia works.
  - dbaupp 14y ago
    Why do you keep replying to yourself?
    - cabirum 14y ago
      Sorry. For some reason, the reply link was unavailable on come comments. (workaround is to use "link" and open single comment with a reply field) see http://imgur.com/yYOBm http://imgur.com/yYOBm
      - ajuc 14y ago
        It's not bug, it's a feature. Replying is only possible a few minutes after the comment was posted, to prevent discussion going out of hand. Besides I don't understand what wikipedia did wrong.
        cabirum 14y ago
        Ah, thanks, the delay does not seem to be explained anywhere. About Wikipedia. Do you still remember the SOPA blackout day? Everybody was warned about upcoming blackout a few weeks beforehand, and most importantly, pretty much everyone supported the blackout, thus reaching the consensus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus Today, Russian Wiki is closed. The decision was taken yesterday by a bunch of admins, who started a poll, without any warning and without anyone prepared. It is a violation of consensus rules as described in the link above: "Consensus ... nor is it the result of a vote." Admins' actions today are a blatant violation of these rules by Coordinated actions, Meatpuppetry and are biased in general: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:False_consensus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:False_consensus
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by cabirum 14y ago

van_gogh 14y ago

You look like pro-Putin "Nashi" youth organisation member trashing the Internet with their prepaid comments.

guard-of-terra 14y ago

Guess what. Wikipedia does what it wants to do. You do not like it, you might use any other wikipedia.

cabirum 14y ago

Exactly this. But Russian admins do not own Wikipedia and abused their power to pursue their own goals.

guard-of-terra 14y ago
Who owns Wikipedia? It's the people who spend time on it, whether we like what they do or not. If they chose to oppose the law, maybe it tells us something, don't you think?
cabirum 14y ago
Like I said, they did not give people time to vote, nor did they provide any notice of the planned actions beforehand.
- guard-of-terra 14y ago
  We'll be more than happy to hear any real wikipedia contributors' points on the subject. We're not happy to hear for random people who aren't active contributors to wikipedia but still think wikipedia owes something to them. They don't technically need to have all the "85 rouble party" crowd to do the voting before deciding anything. It's not how wikipedia works.
- dbaupp 14y ago
  Why do you keep replying to yourself?
  - cabirum 14y ago
    Sorry. For some reason, the reply link was unavailable on come comments. (workaround is to use "link" and open single comment with a reply field) see http://imgur.com/yYOBm http://imgur.com/yYOBm
    - ajuc 14y ago
      It's not bug, it's a feature. Replying is only possible a few minutes after the comment was posted, to prevent discussion going out of hand. Besides I don't understand what wikipedia did wrong.
      - cabirum 14y ago
        Ah, thanks, the delay does not seem to be explained anywhere. About Wikipedia. Do you still remember the SOPA blackout day? Everybody was warned about upcoming blackout a few weeks beforehand, and most importantly, pretty much everyone supported the blackout, thus reaching the consensus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus Today, Russian Wiki is closed. The decision was taken yesterday by a bunch of admins, who started a poll, without any warning and without anyone prepared. It is a violation of consensus rules as described in the link above: "Consensus ... nor is it the result of a vote." Admins' actions today are a blatant violation of these rules by Coordinated actions, Meatpuppetry and are biased in general: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:False_consensus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:False_consensus
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