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Php.net Is Down
- newbing 2y agoYes,it's down.
- cluckindan 2y ago502 Bad Gateway Damn this ancient laptop. But my Packard Bell won’t connect either?!
- diggan 2y ago2xx - All good 3xx - Somethings could be better 4xx - You did something wrong 5xx - Server did something wrong Judging by this quick cheat-sheet I just created, this was not your fault :)
- rsynnott 2y ago1xx - Rare novelty response code.
- corobo 2y ago1xx - this is the websocket connection if you want to watch what it's doing
- doubled112 2y ago418 I'm a teapot seemed pretty novel the first few times.
- coldcode 2y agoI prefer I'm a coffeepot, but for some reason, there was a 404.
- doubled112 2y agoCoffee not found. Sorry, I already drank it.
- jeroenhd 2y ago1xx is the response code you try to ignore because it's really annoying to deal with properly (like when you receive a 100 response to a file upload, or even worse, a 101 with a protocol that isn't exactly what you expected, or a 103 which means more content comes later). 1xx response codes are crucial for things like WebSockets and HTTP/3 but they make the HTTP state machine more complex and many people writing manual HTTP requests are ill-prepared to deal with them.
- pikseladam 2y agoyep. this checks out
- captn3m0 2y agohttps://github.com/php/web-php/issues/1163 https://github.com/php/web-php/issues/1163
- pier25 2y agoIt was reported 9 hours ago... and it's still down?
- sshine 2y agoA week or two ago, the Haskell website was down for the greater part of a weekend. Digging through Hacker News history, Haskell.org was periodically reported down between 7 and 14 years ago. I suspect the volunteer resources behind language projects have half-hearted DevOps. So the surprising thing to me is not that php.net is down for hours, but that people care to report it.
- pier25 2y agoAre you seriously comparing a niche language almost nobody uses vs the language that runs the majority of websites?
- 0x073 2y agoIf I understand it correctly the site is managed more like a hobby/private website. There is no company behind with sys admin 24h support.
- pier25 2y agowhat about the PHP Foundation? https://thephp.foundation/ https://thephp.foundation/
- sshine 2y agoI think you’re overstating the usage of Haskell. Hardly everyone uses it. Jokes aside, I think you’ll be surprised to learn that the DevOps effort for most official programming language resources are surprisingly alike, regardless of their popularity.
- kstrauser 2y agoWell, there goes my Sunday. I guess it’s off to the horse track instead.
- jeffrallen 2y agoGo learn Go. :)
- TiredOfLife 2y agoWhen Go has something like PHP Composer and doesn't require 50 environment variables.
- AlexDragusin 2y agoCoincidence this happens after the 8.4 update? We'll see.
- not_your_vase 2y agoMaybe they saw the "php is deprecated" post from a few hours ago, and they were like > Oh, why no one told us? Everyone, thanks for the work, but that's it, the project is over. The webserver is now a minecraft server.
- donohoe 2y agoI'm sure being on the frontpage of HN isn't helping much.
- progbits 2y agoI'm no fan of PHP but let's give them a break. It's Sunday and while having the docs down is unfortunate this basically doesn't matter.
- mdp2021 2y agoWe had been able to download PHP documentation, including useful users' notes, since the dawn of time... Prudence. Edit: In case this comes useful to some: I think this is a backup, https://docs.phplang.net/docs.php https://docs.phplang.net/docs.php
- wwweston 2y agoYes! I remember downloading this for working in an offline setup 20+ years ago. Still, maybe getting rid of the mirrors program 5 years ago had its downsides: https://derickrethans.nl/php-mirrors.html https://derickrethans.nl/php-mirrors.html
- 0x073 2y agoAs the PHP documentation is in git it's easy to have a up to date copy locally.
- dolni 2y agoIt's Sunday in the United States. It's not Sunday everywhere.
- ChrisMarshallNY 2y agoIt's run by Nexcess.net (or was, the last time I checked). Wonder if the whole hosting service is down?
- pier25 2y agoEverything looks fine https://status.nexcess.net/ https://status.nexcess.net/
- pluc 2y agoDown for 10 hours... Not a good look. Nothing goes down for 10 hours unless incompetence is part of the sauce.
- Kwpolska 2y agoAnd that’s important, because?
- mdp2021 2y agoSome infrastructures are supposed to have extremely high uptimes. Were this occasion frequent, you would not see these submissions.
- Kwpolska 2y agoI understand posting about outages of critical infrastructure (like us-east-1) or interactive websites. But this is a non-interactive website, whose only purpose is delivering text (PHP docs) and maybe some binaries. The few people working on PHP projects on a Sunday may not have access to the official docs for a while. But they can just hop onto the Wayback Machine and carry on with their work.
- mdp2021 2y agoFor the manual (of which, I insist, coders should have an offline copy - they have been available since forever and prudence dictates), there is a backup site, apparently, at https://docs.phplang.net/docs.php https://docs.phplang.net/docs.php For the purpose of the submission, I guess some people are puzzled ("What happened?").
- kyriakos 2y agophp.net runs the language's documentation. its not just a home page
- netsharc 2y agoWhen latency and pageload was in seconds instead of milliseconds, downloading the documentation as a Windows Help file improved my efficiency. This is a "kids these days" post. Maybe in a few years "The connection to the data center hosting the 1000 GPUs that run the LLM I ask how to do stuff is down, I can't get any work done!"
- TiredOfLife 2y agoThey also appear to be using some kind of "We have Cloudflare at home" solution
- elashri 2y agoThis status page link from php account on mastodon https://ohdear.app/status-page/php-infrastructure-status-page https://ohdear.app/status-page/php-infrastructure-status-pag...
- devops000 2y agoIf they have used Ruby on Rails would never have happened.
- 3np 2y agoFake news. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42228816 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42228816
- diggan 2y agoSeemingly https://www.elektronauts.com/ https://www.elektronauts.com/ (community for Elektron devices) is also down, coincident? AFAIK, Elektronauts is running Discourse, so Ruby, not PHP, so unlikely to be related that way. But, I'd wager a bet on some DNS misconfiguration at some CDN or likewise, that both are using :)
- 0x073 2y agoApples and bananas.
- Nux 2y agoA good dose of healthy downtime is sometimes welcome.
- DataDaemon 2y agoAfter latest PHP release, everyone started migrating their projects to PHP.
- jgalt212 2y agoI haven't used PHP in years, but I always felt the user examples section made their docs better than the Python docs which are still somewhat wanting for common use case based examples.
- kyriakos 2y agoits back online