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This is actually great. If we can get only AIs to take meetings we can save a lot of work in offices. Zoom has the same dream: https://www.theverge.com/2024/6

by fmbb 2y ago

This is actually great. If we can get only AIs to take meetings we can save a lot of work in offices. Zoom has the same dream: https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/3/24168733/zoom-ceo-ai-clones-digital-twins-videoconferencing-decoder-interview https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/3/24168733/zoom-ceo-ai-clone... Eventually we can also decouple scheduling meetings and reading summaries from humans. And then we can all spend time working instead of in meetings. The robots can archive all their summaries, and have follow up meetings to track status of action points they invented. As long as they do not bother humans it will be a great boon to productivity.

cookiengineer 2y ago
Or, you know, humans could just get their shit together and use asynchronous communication channels in the first place. Using AI for this is like a trying to solve a self-created problem. If human meeting culture would have just used an issue tracker and e.g. emails for this, this all would not have been necessary. Human meeting culture exists only because the tools for synchronizing states is so bad in its UX/UI that there is seemingly no better way to do it. If Teams would have had a better UX focussed on issue management combined with better overviews for different roles, they would not have needed AI bots/avatars for this problem.
- lloeki 2y ago
  Although due to Poe's law I'm unsure if GP was earnest, I elected to read it with a /s modifier.
  - stego-tech 2y ago
    Same here, because otherwise I’m afraid the disease has reached their brain, and they must be destroyed. /s In all seriousness, I hope that was sarcasm, because otherwise that sounds like absolute hell and the biggest waste of resources since the performance review. Except instead of just wasting time, now it also wastes energy, fresh water, land, and rare earths too.
- xattt 2y ago
  To add to this, anti-social assholes who kill team jive tend to hide from responsibility with e-mails. Even when it needs to be a meeting. They need to be dragged out of their comfort zone kicking-and-screaming for public display for the pleasure of others.
- georgeplusplus 2y ago
  In my organization the tools are great but the people don't put the work in to use them correctly. They rely on meetings and emails to get up to date information when the information can be captured on a ticketing system. My organization is very beaurocratic and has an older age group though.
- tetha 2y ago
  Some of the best architectural work we've done at the company was implemented more like a research paper. Have a central document, write down the current knowledge about an outage, or the current proposal - and improve on that through comments, revisions and discussion. And then you can still have a meeting or a call if a non-obvious decision needs to be made, or if clarification and explanation of something is needed.
TrackerFF 2y ago
It is gonna be great when everyone sends their AI avatars to these meetings. Just LLM models talking to each other. Would be interesting to see what kind of output such meetings would generate.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  Isn't that essentially the stock market trading floor scene?
  - jgalt212 2y ago
    I think only only about 60% of stock trading is the machines trading with each other.
- F7F7F7 2y ago
  No one has time to attend meetings. Suddenly you're going to have time to watch LLMs meet...and you imagine yourself doing so with popcorn, I'm assuming? This is something that should happen in a background process in a few seconds. Therefore eliminating the need to create avatars or clone voices.
Dilettante_ 2y ago
Reminds me of the Zizek bit about taking a nice lady home and having stimulating conversation while each others' sex toys are plugged into each other, doing the dirty work.
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by fmbb 2y ago

cookiengineer 2y ago

Or, you know, humans could just get their shit together and use asynchronous communication channels in the first place. Using AI for this is like a trying to solve a self-created problem. If human meeting culture would have just used an issue tracker and e.g. emails for this, this all would not have been necessary. Human meeting culture exists only because the tools for synchronizing states is so bad in its UX/UI that there is seemingly no better way to do it. If Teams would have had a better UX focussed on issue management combined with better overviews for different roles, they would not have needed AI bots/avatars for this problem.

lloeki 2y ago
Although due to Poe's law I'm unsure if GP was earnest, I elected to read it with a /s modifier.
- stego-tech 2y ago
  Same here, because otherwise I’m afraid the disease has reached their brain, and they must be destroyed. /s In all seriousness, I hope that was sarcasm, because otherwise that sounds like absolute hell and the biggest waste of resources since the performance review. Except instead of just wasting time, now it also wastes energy, fresh water, land, and rare earths too.
xattt 2y ago
To add to this, anti-social assholes who kill team jive tend to hide from responsibility with e-mails. Even when it needs to be a meeting. They need to be dragged out of their comfort zone kicking-and-screaming for public display for the pleasure of others.
georgeplusplus 2y ago
In my organization the tools are great but the people don't put the work in to use them correctly. They rely on meetings and emails to get up to date information when the information can be captured on a ticketing system. My organization is very beaurocratic and has an older age group though.
tetha 2y ago
Some of the best architectural work we've done at the company was implemented more like a research paper. Have a central document, write down the current knowledge about an outage, or the current proposal - and improve on that through comments, revisions and discussion. And then you can still have a meeting or a call if a non-obvious decision needs to be made, or if clarification and explanation of something is needed.

TrackerFF 2y ago

It is gonna be great when everyone sends their AI avatars to these meetings. Just LLM models talking to each other. Would be interesting to see what kind of output such meetings would generate.

Dalewyn 2y ago
Isn't that essentially the stock market trading floor scene?
- jgalt212 2y ago
  I think only only about 60% of stock trading is the machines trading with each other.
F7F7F7 2y ago
No one has time to attend meetings. Suddenly you're going to have time to watch LLMs meet...and you imagine yourself doing so with popcorn, I'm assuming? This is something that should happen in a background process in a few seconds. Therefore eliminating the need to create avatars or clone voices.

Dilettante_ 2y ago

Reminds me of the Zizek bit about taking a nice lady home and having stimulating conversation while each others' sex toys are plugged into each other, doing the dirty work.

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