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> Make it make sense. Since you asked: It's like having a meeting about a project whose deadline was 3 weeks ago and the team really cares about making a succ

> Make it make sense. Since you asked: It's like having a meeting about a project whose deadline was 3 weeks ago and the team really cares about making a success of it, but the finance department has told the board privately that if the project is a success it would make most of the rest of their incredibly lucrative business obsolete, so now they need to figure out how to make the project fail slowly in a way that makes it seem to the team that they're trying their best so they don't get the blame for it afterwards. tldr; [thisisfine.gif]

heresie-dabord 2y ago
To put it in Roddenberrian terms (where the Federation Finance Department was never discussed), it's as though the heroic Captain of the Enterprise is ordering the Chief Engineer to replace the propulsion system because its emissions are fouling the Life Support System with toxins. "Mister, we need to protect of the lives of the crew and sustain the mission!" "Ah, nyet Captain, I am safe down here so far, maybe we replace you instead."
rdm_blackhole 2y ago
> It's like having a meeting about a project whose deadline was 3 weeks ago and the team really cares about making a success of it, but the finance department has told the board privately that if the project is a success it would make most of the rest of their incredibly lucrative business obsolete, so now they need to figure out how to make the project fail slowly in a way that makes it seem to the team that they're trying their best so they don't get the blame for it afterwards. I disagree with you. The "team" as you put it does not care about making it a success as we have seen in the last decade. Germany closing it's nuclear reactors and replacing them with Russian gas plants, France pushing diesel engines up until the end of the 2010s and marketing them as a safer alternative to other ICE engines, the list goes on and on with governments doing stupid things after stupid things. Who is the finance department in this case? the corporations? The oil producers? Because that is not very clear to me.
- highwaylights 2y ago
  The analogy I was going for was that the team is the public, the finance department is the corporations and state-owned fossil fuel companies, and the board are the governments involved in the COP. Admittedly it wasn’t a great analogy or particularly clear.

heresie-dabord 2y ago

To put it in Roddenberrian terms (where the Federation Finance Department was never discussed), it's as though the heroic Captain of the Enterprise is ordering the Chief Engineer to replace the propulsion system because its emissions are fouling the Life Support System with toxins. "Mister, we need to protect of the lives of the crew and sustain the mission!" "Ah, nyet Captain, I am safe down here so far, maybe we replace you instead."

rdm_blackhole 2y ago

> It's like having a meeting about a project whose deadline was 3 weeks ago and the team really cares about making a success of it, but the finance department has told the board privately that if the project is a success it would make most of the rest of their incredibly lucrative business obsolete, so now they need to figure out how to make the project fail slowly in a way that makes it seem to the team that they're trying their best so they don't get the blame for it afterwards. I disagree with you. The "team" as you put it does not care about making it a success as we have seen in the last decade. Germany closing it's nuclear reactors and replacing them with Russian gas plants, France pushing diesel engines up until the end of the 2010s and marketing them as a safer alternative to other ICE engines, the list goes on and on with governments doing stupid things after stupid things. Who is the finance department in this case? the corporations? The oil producers? Because that is not very clear to me.

highwaylights 2y ago
The analogy I was going for was that the team is the public, the finance department is the corporations and state-owned fossil fuel companies, and the board are the governments involved in the COP. Admittedly it wasn’t a great analogy or particularly clear.