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These are mostly way out of date now right?

by junto 2y ago

dzogchen 2y ago
No. Each POI has date properties indicating date added, date closed and last check date. Most POIs are surprisingly up to date. See my other comment to explore the dataset.
- jorams 2y ago
  A comment on the OSM community thread notes, and I can confirm based on the map you linked, that it contains many POIs that used to exist but haven't for a while, which nevertheless have a date_refreshed from this year.
  - eichin 2y ago
    Looking at the narrow subset I care about (ice cream in massachusetts) they've got a bit of duplication, particularly "vague place and precise place that aren't combined": Far Fars, None, Duxbury, Farfars Danish Ice Cream, 272 Saint George St, Duxbury, http://farfarsicecream.com http://farfarsicecream.com Georgie Porgie's Ice Cream Factory, 2 Northern Blvd, Newbury, Georgie Porgie’s, None, Newbury, Goodhile's Country Store, 1122 Wachusett St, Jefferson, Goodhile’s Ice Cream, None, Jefferson, plus some places with old names but current URLs ('Winterbottom Ice Cream', 'http://www.perryslaststand.com http://www.perryslaststand.com' - which also has an entry with the same street address and the new name, both have 'date_refreshed': '2024-10-15'; the store has always been Perry's, the family name is just the LLC behind it - feels like the result of a sloppy dataset merge.)
    - eichin 2y ago
      Hand inspected 30 items[^sample] and found 10 real ice cream shops, 9 "exists but closed at least a year ago", and 6 "couldn't even find a vague match". (Also 2 real frozen custard shops, which for my purposes don't count but if you're judging generic "retail business data quality" they're probably legit.) Over the "Ice Cream Parlor" data subset, only 171 records even have a date_closed (a little over 10%); of the 9 I identified as closed, only 1 had a date_closed field, which roughly checks out. [^sample]: US, MA, has "Dining and Drinking > Dessert Shop > Ice Cream Parlor" as a label, which is about 1300 items; sorted by name and picked the first 30 - not a random sample.

These are mostly way out of date now right?

by junto 2y ago

These are mostly way out of date now right?

No. Each POI has date properties indicating date added, date closed and last check date. Most POIs are surprisingly up to date. See my other comment to explore the dataset.

jorams 2y ago
A comment on the OSM community thread notes, and I can confirm based on the map you linked, that it contains many POIs that used to exist but haven't for a while, which nevertheless have a date_refreshed from this year.
- eichin 2y ago
  Looking at the narrow subset I care about (ice cream in massachusetts) they've got a bit of duplication, particularly "vague place and precise place that aren't combined": Far Fars, None, Duxbury, Farfars Danish Ice Cream, 272 Saint George St, Duxbury, http://farfarsicecream.com http://farfarsicecream.com Georgie Porgie's Ice Cream Factory, 2 Northern Blvd, Newbury, Georgie Porgie’s, None, Newbury, Goodhile's Country Store, 1122 Wachusett St, Jefferson, Goodhile’s Ice Cream, None, Jefferson, plus some places with old names but current URLs ('Winterbottom Ice Cream', 'http://www.perryslaststand.com http://www.perryslaststand.com' - which also has an entry with the same street address and the new name, both have 'date_refreshed': '2024-10-15'; the store has always been Perry's, the family name is just the LLC behind it - feels like the result of a sloppy dataset merge.)
  - eichin 2y ago
    Hand inspected 30 items[^sample] and found 10 real ice cream shops, 9 "exists but closed at least a year ago", and 6 "couldn't even find a vague match". (Also 2 real frozen custard shops, which for my purposes don't count but if you're judging generic "retail business data quality" they're probably legit.) Over the "Ice Cream Parlor" data subset, only 171 records even have a date_closed (a little over 10%); of the 9 I identified as closed, only 1 had a date_closed field, which roughly checks out. [^sample]: US, MA, has "Dining and Drinking > Dessert Shop > Ice Cream Parlor" as a label, which is about 1300 items; sorted by name and picked the first 30 - not a random sample.