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I read the Wikipedia article and my best guess is that Ahmed was intentionally attempting to get a reaction out of those around him by showing off a clock he bu

by 55555 2y ago

I read the Wikipedia article and my best guess is that Ahmed was intentionally attempting to get a reaction out of those around him by showing off a clock he built intentionally to look like a bomb… I’m a white male but actually had a similar thing happen to me during school. (I brought a water gun to school and people expressed that even bringing a toy gun to school could get you into trouble and to hide it for the rest of the day). So I don’t know how much race was truly a factor. In my opinion you are being closed-minded to other possibilities.

elashri 2y ago
> In my opinion you are being closed-minded to other possibilities. Maybe I'm a little bit closed to other possibilities (the same way a lot of people trying to advocate that this wasn't actually racist incident). Occam's razor plays a factor for me too. > I’m a white male but actually had a similar thing happen to me during school But lets compare your experience as a white kid. you did not get you English teacher calling the police on you after taking your stuff. You did not get arrested by the police who not only question you but took you to a detention center and did not make Mug shot for you. You did not got into much troubles because of maybe you were lucky. You did not got to leave the country because a lot of conservative shows and figures spreading conspiracy theories and attacking you. You can say that you believe that this 14 years old kid was trying to to get reaction but this is a claim that you can support because you don't have a way to get back in 2015 neither do you have a way of reading people's mind. I believe this is even irrelevant. After police was called and things clarified ,the redirection to detention facility and the suspension of school (after everything cleared) and the conspiracy theories are what makes this racist incident. If the school just called cops and they dealt with it differently, there is a good chance that we weren't going to hear about that. So comparing your experience and white male (non-Muslim I guess and sorry if this was not true) against a black Muslim kid yielded two different outcomes.
- ajdude 2y ago
  From what I can tell, this 14-year-old kid showed the clock to other teachers (including his engineering teacher whom he said was the reason he brought it to school to show) before the English teacher, and they told him to keep the device in his backpack and to stop taking it out. It wasn't until during English class, when he took it out, plugged it in, and set the alarm, that's something happened. I have to wonder if the GP would have a similar experience if he kept waving the water gone around after being told to keep it in his bag.
  - 55555 2y ago
    Yeah I kept it in my bag after being told to the first time and spent the entire rest of the school day terrified lol
  - elashri 2y ago
    These details are not in the Wikipedia page. Care to cite how can we get accurate description of the order of what really happened? And even though, I don't think suspension and police overreaction and taking a kid to be questioned without his parents present is justified. This is my problem and this is what makes this no just an ordinary incident that just happens everywhere. There was a racial profiling involved.
    - ThousndBeerMike 2y ago
      I wonder why they aren’t in the wikipedia page lol
    - jadamson 2y ago
      They are on the WP page, though. > Mohamed said he brought the clock to school because he "wanted to impress all of his teachers".[12] His engineering teacher, upon seeing the clock said, "That's really nice", but advised him to keep the device in his backpack for the rest of the school day.[14] Mohamed, however, later plugged it in during his English class and set a time on the clock.[12] When the clock alarm started beeping, the English teacher requested to see it, and said, "Well, it looks like a bomb. Don't show it to anyone else."[11] Here's an older revision so you can't claim it wasn't there earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_Mohamed_clock_incident&oldid=1248464980 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_Mohamed_clo...

by 55555 2y ago

elashri 2y ago

> In my opinion you are being closed-minded to other possibilities. Maybe I'm a little bit closed to other possibilities (the same way a lot of people trying to advocate that this wasn't actually racist incident). Occam's razor plays a factor for me too. > I’m a white male but actually had a similar thing happen to me during school But lets compare your experience as a white kid. you did not get you English teacher calling the police on you after taking your stuff. You did not get arrested by the police who not only question you but took you to a detention center and did not make Mug shot for you. You did not got into much troubles because of maybe you were lucky. You did not got to leave the country because a lot of conservative shows and figures spreading conspiracy theories and attacking you. You can say that you believe that this 14 years old kid was trying to to get reaction but this is a claim that you can support because you don't have a way to get back in 2015 neither do you have a way of reading people's mind. I believe this is even irrelevant. After police was called and things clarified ,the redirection to detention facility and the suspension of school (after everything cleared) and the conspiracy theories are what makes this racist incident. If the school just called cops and they dealt with it differently, there is a good chance that we weren't going to hear about that. So comparing your experience and white male (non-Muslim I guess and sorry if this was not true) against a black Muslim kid yielded two different outcomes.

ajdude 2y ago
From what I can tell, this 14-year-old kid showed the clock to other teachers (including his engineering teacher whom he said was the reason he brought it to school to show) before the English teacher, and they told him to keep the device in his backpack and to stop taking it out. It wasn't until during English class, when he took it out, plugged it in, and set the alarm, that's something happened. I have to wonder if the GP would have a similar experience if he kept waving the water gone around after being told to keep it in his bag.
- 55555 2y ago
  Yeah I kept it in my bag after being told to the first time and spent the entire rest of the school day terrified lol
- elashri 2y ago
  These details are not in the Wikipedia page. Care to cite how can we get accurate description of the order of what really happened? And even though, I don't think suspension and police overreaction and taking a kid to be questioned without his parents present is justified. This is my problem and this is what makes this no just an ordinary incident that just happens everywhere. There was a racial profiling involved.
  - ThousndBeerMike 2y ago
    I wonder why they aren’t in the wikipedia page lol
  - jadamson 2y ago
    They are on the WP page, though. > Mohamed said he brought the clock to school because he "wanted to impress all of his teachers".[12] His engineering teacher, upon seeing the clock said, "That's really nice", but advised him to keep the device in his backpack for the rest of the school day.[14] Mohamed, however, later plugged it in during his English class and set a time on the clock.[12] When the clock alarm started beeping, the English teacher requested to see it, and said, "Well, it looks like a bomb. Don't show it to anyone else."[11] Here's an older revision so you can't claim it wasn't there earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_Mohamed_clock_incident&oldid=1248464980 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_Mohamed_clo...