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> Some of that information is lies, but a lot of people spread fact. And how do you know which is which, hmmm?

t-writescode 2y ago
Fox News and OAN has taught us that even news agencies and journalism aren't the way to guarantee fact or truth. Yellow Journalism is a term for over 100 years ago. People lying with a broad audience is nothing new. addendum: and how many times have you read a news article from the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal that's in your area of expertise that's made you go "wow, everything they've said here is wrong, said with an agenda, misinterpreted or other propaganda"?
- petra 2y ago
  Sure, news agencies aren't a way to guarrantee truth. That has always been a problem. But social networks have increased that problem by an order of magnitude. And we're seeing the results - the rise of dictatorships all around the world, that use the lie spreading capability of social networks.
  - t-writescode 2y ago
    I forget where I heard it last night; but yes, that is something to consider. Every time there's been a new way for a new and different wave of people to communicate with the masses that there has been a rise in populism and dictatorships around the world. Happened with the printing press, radio, with television and now it's social media's turn, yes. We as a collection of societies, worldwide, have not grown our broad-range antibodies/protections against such things, yet.
  - mcosta 2y ago
    What new dictatorships are there sice around 2010?
- lazystar 2y ago
  bingo, and this is why I'm spending more time watching local news than national/global news or social media posts from other nations. there's a higher trust factor with stuff you can see and touch.
  - t-writescode 2y ago
    I'm not sure you can trust local news stations, either, especially when they're all owned by the same company. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo
    - lazystar 2y ago
      you can easily find which of your local stations are owned by sinclair. for example, in seattle sinclair owns KOMO, which is quite annoying because that channel plays jeopardy/seahawks special segments.
      - lazystar 2y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=42249985 https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=42249985 huh. turns out theres another nationwide conglomerate running the sinclair playbook

Fox News and OAN has taught us that even news agencies and journalism aren't the way to guarantee fact or truth. Yellow Journalism is a term for over 100 years ago. People lying with a broad audience is nothing new. addendum: and how many times have you read a news article from the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal that's in your area of expertise that's made you go "wow, everything they've said here is wrong, said with an agenda, misinterpreted or other propaganda"?

petra 2y ago
Sure, news agencies aren't a way to guarrantee truth. That has always been a problem. But social networks have increased that problem by an order of magnitude. And we're seeing the results - the rise of dictatorships all around the world, that use the lie spreading capability of social networks.
- t-writescode 2y ago
  I forget where I heard it last night; but yes, that is something to consider. Every time there's been a new way for a new and different wave of people to communicate with the masses that there has been a rise in populism and dictatorships around the world. Happened with the printing press, radio, with television and now it's social media's turn, yes. We as a collection of societies, worldwide, have not grown our broad-range antibodies/protections against such things, yet.
- mcosta 2y ago
  What new dictatorships are there sice around 2010?
lazystar 2y ago
bingo, and this is why I'm spending more time watching local news than national/global news or social media posts from other nations. there's a higher trust factor with stuff you can see and touch.
- t-writescode 2y ago
  I'm not sure you can trust local news stations, either, especially when they're all owned by the same company. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo
  - lazystar 2y ago
    you can easily find which of your local stations are owned by sinclair. for example, in seattle sinclair owns KOMO, which is quite annoying because that channel plays jeopardy/seahawks special segments.
    - lazystar 2y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=42249985 https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=42249985 huh. turns out theres another nationwide conglomerate running the sinclair playbook