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I still think a serialized ballot is the way to go. Upon verification of identification at the polling place, a ballot is printed with a random serial number an

I still think a serialized ballot is the way to go. Upon verification of identification at the polling place, a ballot is printed with a random serial number and given over. Those serials are kept until after the count, and any serial number not in that master set should be examined for fraud.

acdha 2y ago
What threat does that prevent? If we don’t trust the storage of ballots, don’t we have the same problem with the storage of the serial numbers? If people are claiming that ballots are being tampered with of fakes, those people will immediately pivot to saying that the serial numbers were legit but attached to new ballots, or that the voting machine switched fields when creating the ballot, etc. The underlying problem here isn’t that there’s anything wrong with the American voting system. It’s that the weight of one of the two major parties and a multi-billion dollar media network were put behind the conclusion that Trump didn’t lose in 2020, and everything else is confabulation backwards from that conclusion which cannot be questioned. Trying to come up with technical solutions for that is doomed from the start because the concerns were never rational in the first place – it’s like trying to win over a creationist of the “god made it look like we evolved” school.
xtiansimon 2y ago
There is a visible serial number on the ballot pad stubs, though not on the ballot (Nassau Co. NY). Each Assembly District and Election District gets a stack of shrink wrapped ballots (groups of 50 for serial number from 1-750, iirc). I’ve worked as a poll worker for the last 12 years. (I suppose I should know the exact numbers, but there’s a lot to do and it’s not a critical detail for the work if its stacks of 50 or 100; 1-750 or 1-someother number up to the size of the ED).

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I still think a serialized ballot is the way to go. Upon verification of identification at the polling place, a ballot is printed with a random serial number an

by Molitor5901 2y ago

acdha 2y ago
What threat does that prevent? If we don’t trust the storage of ballots, don’t we have the same problem with the storage of the serial numbers? If people are claiming that ballots are being tampered with of fakes, those people will immediately pivot to saying that the serial numbers were legit but attached to new ballots, or that the voting machine switched fields when creating the ballot, etc. The underlying problem here isn’t that there’s anything wrong with the American voting system. It’s that the weight of one of the two major parties and a multi-billion dollar media network were put behind the conclusion that Trump didn’t lose in 2020, and everything else is confabulation backwards from that conclusion which cannot be questioned. Trying to come up with technical solutions for that is doomed from the start because the concerns were never rational in the first place – it’s like trying to win over a creationist of the “god made it look like we evolved” school.
xtiansimon 2y ago
There is a visible serial number on the ballot pad stubs, though not on the ballot (Nassau Co. NY). Each Assembly District and Election District gets a stack of shrink wrapped ballots (groups of 50 for serial number from 1-750, iirc). I’ve worked as a poll worker for the last 12 years. (I suppose I should know the exact numbers, but there’s a lot to do and it’s not a critical detail for the work if its stacks of 50 or 100; 1-750 or 1-someother number up to the size of the ED).