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That rubric only works until sufficiently advanced LLM-generated HN posts are indistinguishable from human-generated HN posts. It also doesn’t speak to the per
by aspenmayer 2y ago
That rubric only works until sufficiently advanced LLM-generated HN posts are indistinguishable from human-generated HN posts.
It also doesn’t speak to the permission or lack thereof of training LLMs on HN content, which was another main point of OP.
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- JavierFlores09 2y ago> That rubric only works until sufficiently advanced LLM-generated HN posts are indistinguishable from human-generated HN posts. if a comment made by a LLM is indistinguishable from a normal one, it'd be impossible to moderate anyway unless one starts tracking people across comments and see the consistency of their replies and overall stance so I don't particularly think it is useful to worry about people who will go the extra length to go undetected
- aspenmayer 2y ago> if a comment made by a LLM is indistinguishable from a normal one, it'd be impossible to moderate anyway unless one starts tracking people across comments and see the consistency of their replies and overall stance so I don't particularly think it is useful to worry about people who will go the extra length to go undetected The existence of rule-breakers is not itself an argument against a rules-based order.
- tredre3 2y agoHN's guidelines aren't "laws" to be "enforced", they're a list of unwelcome behaviors. There is value in setting expectations for participants in a community, even if some will choose to break them and get away with it.
- bawolff 2y agoIf comments by LLMs were actually as valuable & insightful as human comments there would be no need for the rule. The rule is in place because they usually aren't. Relavent xkcd https://xkcd.com/810/ https://xkcd.com/810/
- majormajor 2y agoThat's assuming a certain outcome: indistinguishable posts. Some would say LLM-generated posts will eventually be superior information-wise. In which case possibly the behavior will change naturally. Or maybe they don't get there any time soon and stay in the uncanny valley for a long time. I'm kinda fine with a "if you can't be bothered to even change the standard-corporate-BS-tone of your copypaste, you get downvoted" - for all I know some people might be more clever with their prompting to get something less crap-sounding, and then they'll just live or die on the coherence of the comment.
- redox99 2y agoIt's pretty trivial to finetune an LLM to output posts that are indistinguishable.