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Not to mention their cover ups and distractions from far larger crimes - decades of cheerleading the 'war on terror', stirring up Islamophobia, ignoring Israeli

Not to mention their cover ups and distractions from far larger crimes - decades of cheerleading the 'war on terror', stirring up Islamophobia, ignoring Israeli atrocities, spreading climate change FUD, etc etc. Saville was mind-meltingly evil, but in terms of the damage done, even he pales in comparison to Cheney, W, Obama, Netanyahu, Biden, Murdoch, etc. Many people won't like these facts, and will reject them with prejudice. And that's largely because of corporate media :/ So yeah, the hypocrisy really stings when they try to blame online piracy for the state of the world. It's staggering weaponized hypocrisy.

kibwen 2y ago
The news media and the copyright cartels are different evils. News media aren't the ones going after torrenters.
- mandmandam 2y ago
  Over 90% of news AND entertainment in the US are owned by just 6 companies. Same companies, same investors, same incentives, same evils.
  - meiraleal 2y ago
    This can't be true. I agree with what you are saying but I think that's not the case anymore. Popular entertainment is too diverse now.
    - mandmandam 2y ago
      I briefly verified this before posting, and it appears to still be true [0]. The diversity is an illusion; like how 10 food companies own basically all the world's brands [1]. 0 - https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/communication/media-stocks/big-6/ https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/c... 1 - https://www.good.is/this-infographic-shows-how-only-10-companies-own-all-the-worlds-food-brands https://www.good.is/this-infographic-shows-how-only-10-compa...
      - meiraleal 2y ago
        Youtube, netflix, tiktok, instagram isn't entertainment then? You are talking about last century media that holds just a small fraction of people's attention currently.
        mandmandam 2y ago
        So add four more companies to the list. Six, ten - either way the point stands: same investors, same incentives, same evils. Plus, those entertainments are mostly used by younger generations. Boomers are the ones with the wealth and in positions of power, and they still generally believe every shadow play the legacy media put on.
        meiraleal 2y ago
        I can go on and add 10 more, Steam, twitch, twitter, ...
        mandmandam 2y ago
        Yes, but can you get the point? Like, adding Twitter as an example of non-evil entertainment is just ... And Twitch is just Amazon, already on the list.
        meiraleal 2y ago
        They are all capitalist companies, not "evil". Are capitalist companies evil? Yes, most of them. Complaining about them 'monopolizing' the market without questioning free market (which is actually oligarchy market) doesn't make much sense. So the entertainment cartel and the copyright cartel are different ones but both part of the oligarchy market and they will protect each other to protect themselves. This market isn't small or owned by 6 companies, they are hundreds, even thousands, including all YC-funded projects.
        mandmandam 2y ago

kibwen 2y ago

The news media and the copyright cartels are different evils. News media aren't the ones going after torrenters.

mandmandam 2y ago
Over 90% of news AND entertainment in the US are owned by just 6 companies. Same companies, same investors, same incentives, same evils.
- meiraleal 2y ago
  This can't be true. I agree with what you are saying but I think that's not the case anymore. Popular entertainment is too diverse now.
  - mandmandam 2y ago
    I briefly verified this before posting, and it appears to still be true [0]. The diversity is an illusion; like how 10 food companies own basically all the world's brands [1]. 0 - https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/communication/media-stocks/big-6/ https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/c... 1 - https://www.good.is/this-infographic-shows-how-only-10-companies-own-all-the-worlds-food-brands https://www.good.is/this-infographic-shows-how-only-10-compa...
    - meiraleal 2y ago
      Youtube, netflix, tiktok, instagram isn't entertainment then? You are talking about last century media that holds just a small fraction of people's attention currently.
      - mandmandam 2y ago
        So add four more companies to the list. Six, ten - either way the point stands: same investors, same incentives, same evils. Plus, those entertainments are mostly used by younger generations. Boomers are the ones with the wealth and in positions of power, and they still generally believe every shadow play the legacy media put on.
        meiraleal 2y ago
        I can go on and add 10 more, Steam, twitch, twitter, ...
        mandmandam 2y ago
        Yes, but can you get the point? Like, adding Twitter as an example of non-evil entertainment is just ... And Twitch is just Amazon, already on the list.
        meiraleal 2y ago
        They are all capitalist companies, not "evil". Are capitalist companies evil? Yes, most of them. Complaining about them 'monopolizing' the market without questioning free market (which is actually oligarchy market) doesn't make much sense. So the entertainment cartel and the copyright cartel are different ones but both part of the oligarchy market and they will protect each other to protect themselves. This market isn't small or owned by 6 companies, they are hundreds, even thousands, including all YC-funded projects.
        mandmandam 2y ago