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There’s a market for cadavers. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodies-brokers/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-

by Retric 2y ago

There’s a market for cadavers. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodies-brokers/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodi...

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
And it's tightly regulated.
- Retric 2y ago
  So are cars, it’s still a sale and actual ownership.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > it’s still a sale and actual ownership What makes it actual versus pretend ownership? Remember, ownership is a social construct.
    - EMIRELADERO 2y ago
      > Remember, ownership is a social construct. But the argument about you not really "owning" stuff even when the button says "buy" is a legal one.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > the argument about you not really "owning" stuff even when the button says "buy" is a legal one Ownership is a stack of rights. It's a social construct--you can't lab test for ownership. It's meaningless to say what "really" owning means without specifying which of those rights you view to be essential in this situation.
    - Retric 2y ago
      Finality. Does the seller or creator having a say in what you do with something after the transaction? If so it’s not a sale. If the dealership can still repossess the car you haven’t bought it yet. New house requires being an HOA member? Not a sale.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > Finality No real estate is bought and owned without restrictions. And between taxes and bans, one’s relationship with other owned property is similarly revocable. > the dealership can still repossess the car you haven’t bought it yet If you bought your car with financing, it cannot be stolen? > New house requires being an HOA member? Not a sale So if your house has an HOA it cannot be stolen?
        Retric 2y ago
        > owned without restrictions Society has a say in what you can do with a gun you just bought, the manufacturer and gun shop doesn’t. Thus restrictions by the seller is what matters here. > if you bought your car with financing, it can’t be stolen? It can be stolen from the bank. Walk away from a loan and you are not out the full value of the item as the bank can only repossess the car from whoever stole it.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    in some states (e.g. Virginia) you don’t get to own a car. you have to pay for the right to own a car each year in October via 4+% tax on your car’s current value. ‘merica at its finest :)

by Retric 2y ago

There’s a market for cadavers. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodies-brokers/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodi...

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

And it's tightly regulated.

Retric 2y ago
So are cars, it’s still a sale and actual ownership.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > it’s still a sale and actual ownership What makes it actual versus pretend ownership? Remember, ownership is a social construct.
  - EMIRELADERO 2y ago
    > Remember, ownership is a social construct. But the argument about you not really "owning" stuff even when the button says "buy" is a legal one.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > the argument about you not really "owning" stuff even when the button says "buy" is a legal one Ownership is a stack of rights. It's a social construct--you can't lab test for ownership. It's meaningless to say what "really" owning means without specifying which of those rights you view to be essential in this situation.
  - Retric 2y ago
    Finality. Does the seller or creator having a say in what you do with something after the transaction? If so it’s not a sale. If the dealership can still repossess the car you haven’t bought it yet. New house requires being an HOA member? Not a sale.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > Finality No real estate is bought and owned without restrictions. And between taxes and bans, one’s relationship with other owned property is similarly revocable. > the dealership can still repossess the car you haven’t bought it yet If you bought your car with financing, it cannot be stolen? > New house requires being an HOA member? Not a sale So if your house has an HOA it cannot be stolen?
      - Retric 2y ago
        > owned without restrictions Society has a say in what you can do with a gun you just bought, the manufacturer and gun shop doesn’t. Thus restrictions by the seller is what matters here. > if you bought your car with financing, it can’t be stolen? It can be stolen from the bank. Walk away from a loan and you are not out the full value of the item as the bank can only repossess the car from whoever stole it.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  in some states (e.g. Virginia) you don’t get to own a car. you have to pay for the right to own a car each year in October via 4+% tax on your car’s current value. ‘merica at its finest :)