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Saying "piracy supports organized crime" as a scare tactic is a new one to me, and doesn't seem like a very effective campaign. What would be their motivation,

Saying "piracy supports organized crime" as a scare tactic is a new one to me, and doesn't seem like a very effective campaign. What would be their motivation, shitty ad revenue?

johnnyanmac 2y ago
well, the bleeding heart "you make indies unable to operate" didn't work. So you gotta move to fear, no matter how bad the argument. Everyone responds to fear when done right.
telgareith 2y ago
Private trackers might he considered organized crime.
- some_random 2y ago
  I was guessing stuff like counterfeit DVDs, which also doesn't really have much to do with torrenting
kibwen 2y ago
Know what supports organized crime? The copyright-supported media titans that closed ranks to cover up the career-spanning crimes of all the Weinsteins, Cosbys, Diddys, and Saviles of the world.
- thih9 2y ago
  Interestingly, Diddy shares a cell (dormitory-style room) with SBF; small world. > [Diddy] was arrested and indicted in the Southern District of New York in September 2024 on charges of racketeering, sex trafficking by force, and transportation for purposes of prostitution. He is awaiting trial in federal custody at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. His cellmate is Sam Bankman-Fried, who is serving a 25-year sentence. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs
- mandmandam 2y ago
  Not to mention their cover ups and distractions from far larger crimes - decades of cheerleading the 'war on terror', stirring up Islamophobia, ignoring Israeli atrocities, spreading climate change FUD, etc etc. Saville was mind-meltingly evil, but in terms of the damage done, even he pales in comparison to Cheney, W, Obama, Netanyahu, Biden, Murdoch, etc. Many people won't like these facts, and will reject them with prejudice. And that's largely because of corporate media :/ So yeah, the hypocrisy really stings when they try to blame online piracy for the state of the world. It's staggering weaponized hypocrisy.
  - kibwen 2y ago
    The news media and the copyright cartels are different evils. News media aren't the ones going after torrenters.
    - mandmandam 2y ago
      Over 90% of news AND entertainment in the US are owned by just 6 companies. Same companies, same investors, same incentives, same evils.
      - meiraleal 2y ago
        This can't be true. I agree with what you are saying but I think that's not the case anymore. Popular entertainment is too diverse now.
        mandmandam 2y ago
        I briefly verified this before posting, and it appears to still be true [0]. The diversity is an illusion; like how 10 food companies own basically all the world's brands [1]. 0 - https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/communication/media-stocks/big-6/ https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/c... 1 - https://www.good.is/this-infographic-shows-how-only-10-companies-own-all-the-worlds-food-brands https://www.good.is/this-infographic-shows-how-only-10-compa...

Saying "piracy supports organized crime" as a scare tactic is a new one to me, and doesn't seem like a very effective campaign. What would be their motivation, shitty ad revenue?

johnnyanmac 2y ago

well, the bleeding heart "you make indies unable to operate" didn't work. So you gotta move to fear, no matter how bad the argument. Everyone responds to fear when done right.

telgareith 2y ago

Private trackers might he considered organized crime.

some_random 2y ago
I was guessing stuff like counterfeit DVDs, which also doesn't really have much to do with torrenting

kibwen 2y ago

Know what supports organized crime? The copyright-supported media titans that closed ranks to cover up the career-spanning crimes of all the Weinsteins, Cosbys, Diddys, and Saviles of the world.

thih9 2y ago
Interestingly, Diddy shares a cell (dormitory-style room) with SBF; small world. > [Diddy] was arrested and indicted in the Southern District of New York in September 2024 on charges of racketeering, sex trafficking by force, and transportation for purposes of prostitution. He is awaiting trial in federal custody at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. His cellmate is Sam Bankman-Fried, who is serving a 25-year sentence. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs
mandmandam 2y ago
Not to mention their cover ups and distractions from far larger crimes - decades of cheerleading the 'war on terror', stirring up Islamophobia, ignoring Israeli atrocities, spreading climate change FUD, etc etc. Saville was mind-meltingly evil, but in terms of the damage done, even he pales in comparison to Cheney, W, Obama, Netanyahu, Biden, Murdoch, etc. Many people won't like these facts, and will reject them with prejudice. And that's largely because of corporate media :/ So yeah, the hypocrisy really stings when they try to blame online piracy for the state of the world. It's staggering weaponized hypocrisy.
- kibwen 2y ago
  The news media and the copyright cartels are different evils. News media aren't the ones going after torrenters.
  - mandmandam 2y ago
    Over 90% of news AND entertainment in the US are owned by just 6 companies. Same companies, same investors, same incentives, same evils.
    - meiraleal 2y ago
      This can't be true. I agree with what you are saying but I think that's not the case anymore. Popular entertainment is too diverse now.
      - mandmandam 2y ago
        I briefly verified this before posting, and it appears to still be true [0]. The diversity is an illusion; like how 10 food companies own basically all the world's brands [1]. 0 - https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/communication/media-stocks/big-6/ https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/c... 1 - https://www.good.is/this-infographic-shows-how-only-10-companies-own-all-the-worlds-food-brands https://www.good.is/this-infographic-shows-how-only-10-compa...