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> I am starting to wonder if the management wants to ensure people in general do not make that connection ( and just want to have, ideally, serfs barely making

by grecy 2y ago

> I am starting to wonder if the management wants to ensure people in general do not make that connection ( and just want to have, ideally, serfs barely making ends meet) Why do you think healthcare is tied to employment in the US? Why do you think minimum wage in the US has not gone up in decades? Why do you think 2 weeks leave is normal in the US? Why don’t more Americans travel overseas? At this point you have to be willfully ignorant not to make the connection.

A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
There is no reason to make too snarky. The reality is the propaganda machine in US is really well oiled.
Ray20 2y ago
> Why do you think healthcare is tied to employment in the US? Because if you would take THIS money from the people directly, they will be very unhappy. > Why do you think minimum wage in the US has not gone up in decades? Minimum wage is eaten up by an ever-increasing amount of regulations > Why do you think 2 weeks leave is normal in the US? Otherwise, the minimum wage would have to be lowered > Why don’t more Americans travel overseas? It seems like because they already live in the best country
- rwyinuse 2y ago
  If Americans truly lived in the best country, they could afford enough vacation to just travel for fun. America is indeed the best country for rich, highly successful people. The minimum wage is not eaten by regulations, but the corporate profits which make those few so rich. Ordinary workers are better off in many EU countries, and they naturally make the majority of the population. I think the best country is one which provides the best quality of life for the average and median citizen, not just the elite.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Pretty much wrong on all counts.
nuancebydefault 2y ago
For me, everything i read and hear about the US is so weirdly confusing. Here on HN I often read that there are a lot of problems with healthcare, poverty, minimum wages, too big cars, overweight, pollution, racism, big companies and rich people having too much power... ... and then i see the result of the election and the only argument is: this guy will fix our too high taxes.
- grecy 2y ago
  Americans have been convinced to vote against their own best interests by decades of lobbying and propaganda. As just one example, they deeply believe Socialism is evil, never mind the very vast majority of their daily services are dependant on it.
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    Yep, small towns are dying, corporate wealth and power is growing, and prices are rising, and we just voted for the side who will accelerate all three.

by grecy 2y ago

A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago

There is no reason to make too snarky. The reality is the propaganda machine in US is really well oiled.

Ray20 2y ago

> Why do you think healthcare is tied to employment in the US? Because if you would take THIS money from the people directly, they will be very unhappy. > Why do you think minimum wage in the US has not gone up in decades? Minimum wage is eaten up by an ever-increasing amount of regulations > Why do you think 2 weeks leave is normal in the US? Otherwise, the minimum wage would have to be lowered > Why don’t more Americans travel overseas? It seems like because they already live in the best country

rwyinuse 2y ago
If Americans truly lived in the best country, they could afford enough vacation to just travel for fun. America is indeed the best country for rich, highly successful people. The minimum wage is not eaten by regulations, but the corporate profits which make those few so rich. Ordinary workers are better off in many EU countries, and they naturally make the majority of the population. I think the best country is one which provides the best quality of life for the average and median citizen, not just the elite.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
Pretty much wrong on all counts.

nuancebydefault 2y ago

For me, everything i read and hear about the US is so weirdly confusing. Here on HN I often read that there are a lot of problems with healthcare, poverty, minimum wages, too big cars, overweight, pollution, racism, big companies and rich people having too much power... ... and then i see the result of the election and the only argument is: this guy will fix our too high taxes.

grecy 2y ago
Americans have been convinced to vote against their own best interests by decades of lobbying and propaganda. As just one example, they deeply believe Socialism is evil, never mind the very vast majority of their daily services are dependant on it.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  Yep, small towns are dying, corporate wealth and power is growing, and prices are rising, and we just voted for the side who will accelerate all three.