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Total fleet of civilian airplanes. Specifically S7 seems to be quite impacted (and they're about the only company impacted), but it sounds like it's mostly due

Total fleet of civilian airplanes. Specifically S7 seems to be quite impacted (and they're about the only company impacted), but it sounds like it's mostly due to the low quality of these planes.

the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
The problem is not the planes, but the maintenance requirements for the engines on those planes and Russia cannot do any maintenance due to the sanctions. In general flying in Russia has been a pretty questionable experience since the beginning of the war. Their regulator is still barely functional at this moment and a lot of secrecy is happening. For instance you will find barely any incidents reports any more. We have been intentionally avoiding Russian airlines for flights in and out of Russia for our family for the last few years due to safety concerns.
- sedan_baklazhan 2y ago
  I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years. Of course you're free to make your choices. Anyway, don't overestimate the issue: 2.5% of the fleet seems to be grounded right now.
  - jhugo 2y ago
    Hmm, I think you may have just not been paying attention? There was the Superjet that crashed and burned at Lukhovitsy just a few months ago, the A320 that ran out of fuel and landed in the field near Novosibirsk a year ago, the AN26 that crashed in 2021, the Superjet that crashed and burned at Moscow in 2019…
    - sedan_baklazhan 2y ago
      I forgot about the incident at Lukhovitsy - that was w/o passengers. 2019/2021 incidents are completely out of scope of "recent years".
      - jhugo 2y ago
        And another Superjet, arriving at Antalya from Sochi, yesterday.
  - the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
    > I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years. Not very hard, now that reports are no longer publicly available. Prior to 2022 you would still find that information on avherald and other places. That said, even with the little amount of information going out, in the last 5 years alone Russia had at least 8 hull losses with more than 80 fatalities.
  - throw0101d 2y ago
    > I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years. Do we count the (possible) "on-purposes" in the accident† count? * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66599733 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66599733 † "Accident" is discouraged as a term, generally speaking: https://crashnotaccident.com https://crashnotaccident.com

Total fleet of civilian airplanes. Specifically S7 seems to be quite impacted (and they're about the only company impacted), but it sounds like it's mostly due to the low quality of these planes.

the_mitsuhiko 2y ago

The problem is not the planes, but the maintenance requirements for the engines on those planes and Russia cannot do any maintenance due to the sanctions. In general flying in Russia has been a pretty questionable experience since the beginning of the war. Their regulator is still barely functional at this moment and a lot of secrecy is happening. For instance you will find barely any incidents reports any more. We have been intentionally avoiding Russian airlines for flights in and out of Russia for our family for the last few years due to safety concerns.

sedan_baklazhan 2y ago
I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years. Of course you're free to make your choices. Anyway, don't overestimate the issue: 2.5% of the fleet seems to be grounded right now.
- jhugo 2y ago
  Hmm, I think you may have just not been paying attention? There was the Superjet that crashed and burned at Lukhovitsy just a few months ago, the A320 that ran out of fuel and landed in the field near Novosibirsk a year ago, the AN26 that crashed in 2021, the Superjet that crashed and burned at Moscow in 2019…
  - sedan_baklazhan 2y ago
    I forgot about the incident at Lukhovitsy - that was w/o passengers. 2019/2021 incidents are completely out of scope of "recent years".
    - jhugo 2y ago
      And another Superjet, arriving at Antalya from Sochi, yesterday.
- the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
  > I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years. Not very hard, now that reports are no longer publicly available. Prior to 2022 you would still find that information on avherald and other places. That said, even with the little amount of information going out, in the last 5 years alone Russia had at least 8 hull losses with more than 80 fatalities.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years. Do we count the (possible) "on-purposes" in the accident† count? * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66599733 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66599733 † "Accident" is discouraged as a term, generally speaking: https://crashnotaccident.com https://crashnotaccident.com