4 ms·

The X crowd just swept the entire US federal government in the elections. I think it's going to stay pretty culturally significant. Also this smugness is why I

by cle 2y ago

The X crowd just swept the entire US federal government in the elections. I think it's going to stay pretty culturally significant. Also this smugness is why I dislike most discourse on X/Twitter and Bluesky. They're variations of the same thing and I dislike them both b/c of it. It's spilling over into HN unfortunately.

Zigurd 2y ago
Trumpism has no culture. That's not shade. It just doesn't have any culture, any more than the Goldwater right or Nixon's "silent majority" were ever a cultural force. That Bluesky will be the center of cultural gravity online and be where people on the left migrate toward is just observationally true. Smarter people can speculate why that is.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- cle 2y ago
  > the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group Trumpism has a very clear culture, using that definition. But it seems like you're not using that definition. Perhaps you're using the second one in Merriam-Webster? > enlightenment and excellence of taste acquired by intellectual and aesthetic training People self-identifying as this type of "cultured" is just another example of the smugness I'm complaining about. There's also not much to argue about here, there's no way to falsify such a claim, it's just self-annointed "enlightenment and excellence". Some folks on Bluesky define "enlightenment and excellence" in ways that align with their attributes, some folks on X/Twitter define it differently to align with theirs. And they're all smug about it.
  - Zigurd 2y ago
    You are being weirdly abstract and defining yourself as the victim of smugness, while not bringing any counter-examples, or even a theory of an alternate culture.
    - jl6 2y ago
      The only weird thing here is your “my enemies have no culture” theory, which could not be a more transparent case of bubble blindness.
      - Zigurd 2y ago
        Counterexamples? Or, what am I blind to? You are trying to pick a fight about "bubble blindness" or something without any example of what I supposedly do not see. Yes, that is strangely abstract.

by cle 2y ago

Zigurd 2y ago

Trumpism has no culture. That's not shade. It just doesn't have any culture, any more than the Goldwater right or Nixon's "silent majority" were ever a cultural force. That Bluesky will be the center of cultural gravity online and be where people on the left migrate toward is just observationally true. Smarter people can speculate why that is.

deleted 2y ago
[deleted]
cle 2y ago
> the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group Trumpism has a very clear culture, using that definition. But it seems like you're not using that definition. Perhaps you're using the second one in Merriam-Webster? > enlightenment and excellence of taste acquired by intellectual and aesthetic training People self-identifying as this type of "cultured" is just another example of the smugness I'm complaining about. There's also not much to argue about here, there's no way to falsify such a claim, it's just self-annointed "enlightenment and excellence". Some folks on Bluesky define "enlightenment and excellence" in ways that align with their attributes, some folks on X/Twitter define it differently to align with theirs. And they're all smug about it.
- Zigurd 2y ago
  You are being weirdly abstract and defining yourself as the victim of smugness, while not bringing any counter-examples, or even a theory of an alternate culture.
  - jl6 2y ago
    The only weird thing here is your “my enemies have no culture” theory, which could not be a more transparent case of bubble blindness.
    - Zigurd 2y ago
      Counterexamples? Or, what am I blind to? You are trying to pick a fight about "bubble blindness" or something without any example of what I supposedly do not see. Yes, that is strangely abstract.