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I had expected better arguments. Not convincing. Current rise in Blue sky users is due to election results. People will go back to Twitter.

not_your_vase 2y ago
It all boils down to the one and only techbro that you should like. All other techbros are false-prophets, and by proxy their short-text based social network is also bad.
spondylosaurus 2y ago
Anyone who left Twitter for political reasons is unlikely to return. The climate there has long since passed the tipping point.
talldayo 2y ago
> People will go back to Twitter What's Twitter?
- exe34 2y ago
  Xitter now, the X is pronounced "sh".
tracerbulletx 2y ago
No it's over, critical mass has been reached. Bluesky won.
- jl6 2y ago
  Comments like this are why I have zero interest in Twitter or Bluesky or any of them.
  - tracerbulletx 2y ago
    Which is why you don't already know this to be true. I'm just reporting this based on knowing which communities made Twitter work and have migrated at enough scale to make Bluesky stick. Bluesky won't have more subs than Threads, but it will be what the old twitter was in scale and be the more culturally significant platform.
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    - cle 2y ago
      The X crowd just swept the entire US federal government in the elections. I think it's going to stay pretty culturally significant. Also this smugness is why I dislike most discourse on X/Twitter and Bluesky. They're variations of the same thing and I dislike them both b/c of it. It's spilling over into HN unfortunately.
      - Zigurd 2y ago
        Trumpism has no culture. That's not shade. It just doesn't have any culture, any more than the Goldwater right or Nixon's "silent majority" were ever a cultural force. That Bluesky will be the center of cultural gravity online and be where people on the left migrate toward is just observationally true. Smarter people can speculate why that is.
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        cle 2y ago
        > the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group Trumpism has a very clear culture, using that definition. But it seems like you're not using that definition. Perhaps you're using the second one in Merriam-Webster? > enlightenment and excellence of taste acquired by intellectual and aesthetic training People self-identifying as this type of "cultured" is just another example of the smugness I'm complaining about. There's also not much to argue about here, there's no way to falsify such a claim, it's just self-annointed "enlightenment and excellence". Some folks on Bluesky define "enlightenment and excellence" in ways that align with their attributes, some folks on X/Twitter define it differently to align with theirs. And they're all smug about it.
        Zigurd 2y ago
        You are being weirdly abstract and defining yourself as the victim of smugness, while not bringing any counter-examples, or even a theory of an alternate culture.
krapp 2y ago
I don't see why people would go back to Twitter if they find the experience on Bluesky better, regardless of why they moved.
cactacea 2y ago
Agree the article could have been better written but I don't think the fundamentals behind why people are leaving the corporate internet behind are going to change soon. Nobody that left because of trolling and abuse is going back for instance.
bayesianbot 2y ago
As really active ex-user of Twitter I suddenly had no reason to open it anymore as my feed in there is now less active than on Bluesky - most of the people I liked to follow either made the move or are double posting. There's just no reason to open Twitter anymore and I'm not really sure how it would change.
tzs 2y ago
It's not just election results. A lot of scientists have moved over because Bluesky is a lot like "old Twitter". Here is an article from Science about it [1]. Nature also covered this [2]. [1] https://www.science.org/content/article/old-twitter-scientific-community-finds-new-home-bluesky https://www.science.org/content/article/old-twitter-scientif... [2] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03784-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03784-6

not_your_vase 2y ago

It all boils down to the one and only techbro that you should like. All other techbros are false-prophets, and by proxy their short-text based social network is also bad.

spondylosaurus 2y ago

Anyone who left Twitter for political reasons is unlikely to return. The climate there has long since passed the tipping point.

talldayo 2y ago

> People will go back to Twitter What's Twitter?

exe34 2y ago
Xitter now, the X is pronounced "sh".

tracerbulletx 2y ago

No it's over, critical mass has been reached. Bluesky won.

jl6 2y ago
Comments like this are why I have zero interest in Twitter or Bluesky or any of them.
- tracerbulletx 2y ago
  Which is why you don't already know this to be true. I'm just reporting this based on knowing which communities made Twitter work and have migrated at enough scale to make Bluesky stick. Bluesky won't have more subs than Threads, but it will be what the old twitter was in scale and be the more culturally significant platform.
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  - cle 2y ago
    The X crowd just swept the entire US federal government in the elections. I think it's going to stay pretty culturally significant. Also this smugness is why I dislike most discourse on X/Twitter and Bluesky. They're variations of the same thing and I dislike them both b/c of it. It's spilling over into HN unfortunately.
    - Zigurd 2y ago
      Trumpism has no culture. That's not shade. It just doesn't have any culture, any more than the Goldwater right or Nixon's "silent majority" were ever a cultural force. That Bluesky will be the center of cultural gravity online and be where people on the left migrate toward is just observationally true. Smarter people can speculate why that is.
      - deleted 2y ago
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      - cle 2y ago
        > the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group Trumpism has a very clear culture, using that definition. But it seems like you're not using that definition. Perhaps you're using the second one in Merriam-Webster? > enlightenment and excellence of taste acquired by intellectual and aesthetic training People self-identifying as this type of "cultured" is just another example of the smugness I'm complaining about. There's also not much to argue about here, there's no way to falsify such a claim, it's just self-annointed "enlightenment and excellence". Some folks on Bluesky define "enlightenment and excellence" in ways that align with their attributes, some folks on X/Twitter define it differently to align with theirs. And they're all smug about it.
        Zigurd 2y ago
        You are being weirdly abstract and defining yourself as the victim of smugness, while not bringing any counter-examples, or even a theory of an alternate culture.

krapp 2y ago

I don't see why people would go back to Twitter if they find the experience on Bluesky better, regardless of why they moved.

cactacea 2y ago

Agree the article could have been better written but I don't think the fundamentals behind why people are leaving the corporate internet behind are going to change soon. Nobody that left because of trolling and abuse is going back for instance.

bayesianbot 2y ago

As really active ex-user of Twitter I suddenly had no reason to open it anymore as my feed in there is now less active than on Bluesky - most of the people I liked to follow either made the move or are double posting. There's just no reason to open Twitter anymore and I'm not really sure how it would change.

tzs 2y ago

It's not just election results. A lot of scientists have moved over because Bluesky is a lot like "old Twitter". Here is an article from Science about it [1]. Nature also covered this [2]. [1] https://www.science.org/content/article/old-twitter-scientific-community-finds-new-home-bluesky https://www.science.org/content/article/old-twitter-scientif... [2] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03784-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03784-6