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I just turned down a job that I would've been amazing at, because they're in person 3 days a week. They lost literally tens of millions in grant opportunities
by Loughla 2y ago
I just turned down a job that I would've been amazing at, because they're in person 3 days a week.
They lost literally tens of millions in grant opportunities that I have written and the experience I bring, because they wouldn't go remote 3 days instead of just 2.
I understand wanting some time in person, absolutely. I hate it, but it does make certain processes much easier. But to not negotiate at all, even when the candidate is perfect for the job and happy with everything else? Ridiculous.
- SV_BubbleTime 2y agoI’m sure the person that took that job is grateful.
- Loughla 2y agoIt's still open. So instead of filling it with a massively qualified candidate, they chose pain.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 2y agoI suppose the bet from executives is: recession/influx of former government employees will allow for relatively easy replacement of candidates. I am not sure which consideration is more cynical and/or misguided.
- jovial_cavalier 2y ago[flagged]
- dang 2y agoNo personal attacks please.
- jovial_cavalier 2y agoNot a personal attack. Merely observing that he's coming off as someone I would not want to work with. This answers his tacit question of why they wouldn't accept his deal.
- dang 2y agoI gather that you didn't intend it as a personal attack, but we have to moderate by effects, not intent. By that standard, "how much of a pain in the ass you seem to be" is squarely in the personal attack category. Not a borderline call!
- enjeyw 2y agoWe’re on HN; regardless of the validity of your point, there’s less inflammatory ways to word it.
- Spivak 2y agoTurning down a job because your potential employer values arbitrary control of their employees over the actual value they created and being frustrated at the silliness of it is so normal. If this is "pain in the ass" behavior I can't imagine how milquetoast and ChatGPT professionalism your company Slack must be.
- Loughla 2y agoI'm legit sorry if that's how I'm coming across. Don't read tone in text, because there's no sharpness or self-importance meant at all. I'm not sure how else to say what I'm saying. My qualifications are literally perfect for the job. My experience is perfect for the job. My location is perfect for the job. My attitude is perfect for the job. It was billed as remote up to four days but the department head only allows 3. That was a deal breaker. I legitimately only negotiated on that. I was willing to take a pay and title cut because I agree with the mission of the institution. It seemed like a no brainer to me.
- bitcharmer 2y ago[dead]
- 2024user 2y agoHow did you get to the point of turning it down before finding out about the in person days?
- dakiol 2y agoAsking whether the job requires in person presence is usually among the first questions to ask in an interview (e.g., the screening part)
- PeeMcGee 2y agoI've noticed companies that recruit on LinkedIn marking roles as remote, then at the very bottom of the long job description it mentions that it is in fact not remote. I could see someone making it through the initial calls without it coming up. I'd go so far as to say some companies may use it as a backhanded tactic.
- deleted 2y ago[deleted]
- Loughla 2y agoI asked about remote and was told the company was up to 4 days a week remote. Apparently I should've asked specifically about the role? Even though we were already talking about that role?
- senko 2y ago> they're in person 3 days a week. > I asked about remote and was told the company was up to 4 days a week remote. Wait, do they work 7 days a week? If that's their attitude (and I've seen companies where it is), that's a huge red flag.
- Loughla 2y agoNo, I worded that weird. They said they were remote 4 out of 5 days. But the specific department is only remote 2 of the 5 days for that position.