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> Read my words again: the threat was made. You are making things up at this point. Eastern Europe has no Tomahawks, and nor has anyone given any indication th
by mopsi 2y ago
> Read my words again: the threat was made.
You are making things up at this point. Eastern Europe has no Tomahawks, and nor has anyone given any indication that this would change, nor does the extreme caution in supplying much weaker weapons give a reason to even speculate about Tomahawks.
However, supplying more advanced weapons to Ukraine would be justified, given that Russia has broken the promises given to Ukraine in exchange for dismantling their nuclear weapons. I hope to see it happen!
> How many years of war occurred between the coup-government of Ukraine and the territory of Donbass before Russia invaded?
Zero. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that there were no "separatists" in Donbas except for unmarked members of Russian armed forces and security services, fully under Russian command. And as in Yugoslavia, many lives could've been saved if NATO was more assertive in bombing the aggressor and establishing peace instead of looking the other way.
> Ah, and the USA has deployed their missiles all over Europe
American missiles stand where they stood when Nixon was still in office and countries that have joined alliances since the Cold War host none of them.
- aa-jv 2y ago>Eastern Europe has no Tomahawks, and nor has anyone given any indication that this would change Indications: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/tomahawk-cruise-missiles-weapon-ukraine-needs-fight-russia-213598 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/tomahawk-cruise-missi... https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/11/22/potential-envoy-to-ukraine-id-give-tomahawks/ https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/11/22/potential-envoy-to-uk... https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-confirms-tomahawk-missiles-victory-plan-blasts-us-for-giving-away-secrets-ukraine-white-house-russia-war-leak/ https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-confirms... "“We know the plan is realistic. U.S. own military studied it and said it is realistic,” a Ukrainian official familiar with the matter told POLITICO when granted anonymity to be able to speak about a sensitive foreign policy issue." Pay attention to the dates. >American missiles stand where they stood when Nixon was still in office and countries that have joined alliances since the Cold War host none of them. Why abandon involvement in a treaty designed to prevent proliferation, if not to proliferate? https://www.iiss.org/online-analysis/online-analysis/2024/08/the-return-of-long-range-us-missiles-to-europe/ https://www.iiss.org/online-analysis/online-analysis/2024/08... Oh, and about those treaties .. https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2021/12/the-us-exit-from-the-anti-ballistic-missile-treaty-has-fueled-a-new-arms-race?lang=en https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2021/12/the-us-exit-from...
- mopsi 2y agoThe quote you picked is from Ukrainians who are requesting Tomahawks. US responses in the articles you linked: 1) "the U.S. and NATO are hesitant to endorse due to fears of nuclear escalation." 2) "I don’t see the Biden administration ready to do so yet." 3) "senior U.S. official described the Ukrainian request as totally unfeasible."