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> Last year there were 36 unintentional shootings by children of all ages in Texas. Considering how many are intentional shootings by children of all ages this

> Last year there were 36 unintentional shootings by children of all ages in Texas. Considering how many are intentional shootings by children of all ages this is, this is a non-story the same way the sky is blue and water is wet.

kyrra 2y ago
Came here to say the same thing. Looks like in 2024, there were 9 unintentional shootings by children in Texas. https://everytownresearch.org/maps/notanaccident/ https://everytownresearch.org/maps/notanaccident/ The 36 number is inflated, as it likely includes teenagers with intent. For those downvoting the parent comment, please do some critical reading of the article. It's conflating "children of all ages" with "toddlers". This is an absolutely trash article.
- jareklupinski 2y ago
  "Teenagers With Intent" is the name of my "Velvet Underground" cover band
- piva00 2y ago
  9 is still 9 too much, don't you agree?
  - kyrra 2y ago
    I agree, to an extent. But when articles twist words and uses stats in places that are lies, I have issues with it as well. There's no reason to embellish this data. How many traffic fatalities is too many? If we lowered the maximum speed of cars to 20 mph, and that reduced fatalities by 90%, would that be worth it? All things in life have a trade-off.
    - piva00 2y ago
      > How many traffic fatalities is too many? If we lowered the maximum speed of cars to 20 mph, and that reduced fatalities by 90%, would that be worth it? Traffic fatalities are reduced by reduced speeds, and countries in Europe tend to limit quite heavily maximum speed in urban areas so... Yes, reducing speeds to 20-30mph in most cases is worth it, the US should adopt that. Highways can have increased speeds as they are designed for it, here in Sweden it's limited to max 90km/h in urban perimeters (~55mph) but sometimes down to 70km/h, up to 120km/h outside urban areas (~75mph). Unfortunately speed limits aren't the solution though, better driver education, better urban design which naturally limits speeds, and stricter enforcement/punishment of traffic violations all build up to safer traffic. Traffic in the USA is murderous, reminds me much more of my native country (Brazil) than any other developed country I've ever driven at.
HumblyTossed 2y ago
> this is a non-story Oh good grief. It is NOT a non-story. It should NEVER HAPPEN AT ALL. But, sure, let's just keep normalizing this instead of fixing it.
bananapub 2y ago
this is your brain on American gun norms. > Homicides involving firearms are less common in the UK compared to those involving knives. There were 29 homicides by shooting in the year ending March 2023, representing 5% of all homicides. the UK (population 68 million) has 7 less MURDERS BY GUN IN TOTAL, than Texas (population 30 million) has CHILDREN SHOOTING PEOPLE, SUBCATEGORY: ACCIDENTAL. https://aoav.org.uk/2024/does-the-uk-have-a-knife-and-gun-problem/#:~:text=Homicides%20involving%20firearms%20are%20less,representing%205%25%20of%20all%20homicides https://aoav.org.uk/2024/does-the-uk-have-a-knife-and-gun-pr....
- mingus88 2y ago
  It’s worth pointing out that the entirety of the UK fits into the footprint of the state of Oregon Also, nations that are islands have a much easier time eliminating guns from their borders, once the populace agrees that they should be. The sad part is that the U.S. has a huge population of people that still don’t think anyone else’s rights to the pursuit of happiness and peace take precedence over their constitutional right to own guns, and if Sandy Hook didn’t move the needle then I don’t see what will. But even if they agreed to take that action my first two points pose a pretty impossible logistical task to actually remove guns from our society
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    guns could 100% be removed from our society if we decided to do it. as you said though, sandy hook sealed that forever, right? once we decided as society to accept mass slaughter of children there is nothing else left to move the needle. but if we wanted to do it logistically we are capable of much bigger things than removing guns from society. give everyone X amount of time to return them and then make being caught with a gun punishable by minimum of 45 years to life. once the deadline expires make a few highly publicized arrest and that’s that…
    - infamouscow 2y ago
      Guns could be removed by passing a Constitutional amendment to repeal the 2A. The thing is, the anti-gun people are simply unwilling to do this because their position isn't nearly as popular as they believe. There's nothing stopping them from going through that effort other than fear. If 80% of the population really did agree with them, passing an amendment to repeal the 2A should be a no-brainer for any politician that wants to get re-elected.
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kyrra 2y ago

Came here to say the same thing. Looks like in 2024, there were 9 unintentional shootings by children in Texas. https://everytownresearch.org/maps/notanaccident/ https://everytownresearch.org/maps/notanaccident/ The 36 number is inflated, as it likely includes teenagers with intent. For those downvoting the parent comment, please do some critical reading of the article. It's conflating "children of all ages" with "toddlers". This is an absolutely trash article.

jareklupinski 2y ago
"Teenagers With Intent" is the name of my "Velvet Underground" cover band
piva00 2y ago
9 is still 9 too much, don't you agree?
- kyrra 2y ago
  I agree, to an extent. But when articles twist words and uses stats in places that are lies, I have issues with it as well. There's no reason to embellish this data. How many traffic fatalities is too many? If we lowered the maximum speed of cars to 20 mph, and that reduced fatalities by 90%, would that be worth it? All things in life have a trade-off.
  - piva00 2y ago
    > How many traffic fatalities is too many? If we lowered the maximum speed of cars to 20 mph, and that reduced fatalities by 90%, would that be worth it? Traffic fatalities are reduced by reduced speeds, and countries in Europe tend to limit quite heavily maximum speed in urban areas so... Yes, reducing speeds to 20-30mph in most cases is worth it, the US should adopt that. Highways can have increased speeds as they are designed for it, here in Sweden it's limited to max 90km/h in urban perimeters (~55mph) but sometimes down to 70km/h, up to 120km/h outside urban areas (~75mph). Unfortunately speed limits aren't the solution though, better driver education, better urban design which naturally limits speeds, and stricter enforcement/punishment of traffic violations all build up to safer traffic. Traffic in the USA is murderous, reminds me much more of my native country (Brazil) than any other developed country I've ever driven at.

HumblyTossed 2y ago

> this is a non-story Oh good grief. It is NOT a non-story. It should NEVER HAPPEN AT ALL. But, sure, let's just keep normalizing this instead of fixing it.

bananapub 2y ago

this is your brain on American gun norms. > Homicides involving firearms are less common in the UK compared to those involving knives. There were 29 homicides by shooting in the year ending March 2023, representing 5% of all homicides. the UK (population 68 million) has 7 less MURDERS BY GUN IN TOTAL, than Texas (population 30 million) has CHILDREN SHOOTING PEOPLE, SUBCATEGORY: ACCIDENTAL. https://aoav.org.uk/2024/does-the-uk-have-a-knife-and-gun-problem/#:~:text=Homicides%20involving%20firearms%20are%20less,representing%205%25%20of%20all%20homicides https://aoav.org.uk/2024/does-the-uk-have-a-knife-and-gun-pr....

mingus88 2y ago
It’s worth pointing out that the entirety of the UK fits into the footprint of the state of Oregon Also, nations that are islands have a much easier time eliminating guns from their borders, once the populace agrees that they should be. The sad part is that the U.S. has a huge population of people that still don’t think anyone else’s rights to the pursuit of happiness and peace take precedence over their constitutional right to own guns, and if Sandy Hook didn’t move the needle then I don’t see what will. But even if they agreed to take that action my first two points pose a pretty impossible logistical task to actually remove guns from our society
- bdangubic 2y ago
  guns could 100% be removed from our society if we decided to do it. as you said though, sandy hook sealed that forever, right? once we decided as society to accept mass slaughter of children there is nothing else left to move the needle. but if we wanted to do it logistically we are capable of much bigger things than removing guns from society. give everyone X amount of time to return them and then make being caught with a gun punishable by minimum of 45 years to life. once the deadline expires make a few highly publicized arrest and that’s that…
  - infamouscow 2y ago
    Guns could be removed by passing a Constitutional amendment to repeal the 2A. The thing is, the anti-gun people are simply unwilling to do this because their position isn't nearly as popular as they believe. There's nothing stopping them from going through that effort other than fear. If 80% of the population really did agree with them, passing an amendment to repeal the 2A should be a no-brainer for any politician that wants to get re-elected.

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