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I was looking forward to ML until I read the supported hardware and found that my 2006 Mac Pro won't be supported. This has happened in the past with other Macs

by greedo 14y ago

I was looking forward to ML until I read the supported hardware and found that my 2006 Mac Pro won't be supported. This has happened in the past with other Macs, but this is the first time it has bit me. My Pro is perfect for me, I have it maxed at 32 GB of memory, dual optical drives, and 4TB of local disk. Quad 2.66GHz cores is more than enough for me. I understand that things like display Airplay mirroring depend on newer CPUs/GPUs, but ML should still be supported, just with fewer features. And yes, I know this is a 6 year old system. But it's still a good solid system with a long life ahead of it. I'll keep running Lion on it until something dies (system board?) that's irreplaceable.

sneak 14y ago
Agreed, that is bullshit. That system is more than capable. Apple shouldn't penalize anyone in software for paying a small price premium for their ultra-reliable hardware.
bugmenot 14y ago
Here! http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/18/install-os-x-mountain-lion-developer-preview-on-old-unsupported-macs/ http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/18/install-os-x-mountain-lion-de... While my Macbook does run ML, I know how you feel, even more so as your machine has better specs than mine. I also get the feeling Lion is a bit slower than SL for the small things, like opening apps. I know SSDs are faster for IO operations in general, but previously it wasn't like this for HDDs, even on fresh installs.
jdboyd 14y ago
When 10.5 came out, a lot of unsupported systems only required a minor hack to make 10.5 install (copy the DVD to HD, edit a file, burn back to DVD). With luck, there will be an easy hack this time as well. I believe the factor that decides which machines got cut off is the lack of 64bit EFI, which Apple requires for booting a 64bit kernel. Some people have already worked out how to use hackintosh tools to boot from Legacy Mode into a 64bit EFI and then into a 64bit kernel on the 2006/2007 Mac Pros, which apparently increases expansion card compatiblity (particularly making it possible to put unflashed PC video cards in the machine). Also, after doing this, some of the older MacPro video cards will be unsupported (such as the 7300GT). A suitable Radeon replacement is probably cheap though. It is too early to tell, but with luck the same thing can be done by dedicated MacPro owners to get 10.8. Personally, I'm very disappointed that my wife's MacBook is also on the unsupported list. I will probably end up just replacing her laptop rather than trying to hack it.
- greedo 14y ago
  If the hacks progress to the point where I can upgrade to a card that supports display mirroring via Airplay, I may look into it. The video card on this system is its only weak spot in terms of reliability. Too much WoW burned out two prior cards, and replacement cards are outrageous. EDIT: Now I see that it's a CPU issue, not GPU, so I'm screwed. Maybe I'll end up getting a new Mini to replace my old one for HTPC.
smashing 14y ago
What's the point of upgrading to ML? It seems pretty unimpressive.
- greedo 14y ago
  Airplay mirroring was the first "gotta have" feature for me, but my videocard is too old to support it, regardless of whether I can hack ML to run on my system.

by greedo 14y ago

sneak 14y ago

Agreed, that is bullshit. That system is more than capable. Apple shouldn't penalize anyone in software for paying a small price premium for their ultra-reliable hardware.

bugmenot 14y ago

Here! http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/18/install-os-x-mountain-lion-developer-preview-on-old-unsupported-macs/ http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/18/install-os-x-mountain-lion-de... While my Macbook does run ML, I know how you feel, even more so as your machine has better specs than mine. I also get the feeling Lion is a bit slower than SL for the small things, like opening apps. I know SSDs are faster for IO operations in general, but previously it wasn't like this for HDDs, even on fresh installs.

jdboyd 14y ago

When 10.5 came out, a lot of unsupported systems only required a minor hack to make 10.5 install (copy the DVD to HD, edit a file, burn back to DVD). With luck, there will be an easy hack this time as well. I believe the factor that decides which machines got cut off is the lack of 64bit EFI, which Apple requires for booting a 64bit kernel. Some people have already worked out how to use hackintosh tools to boot from Legacy Mode into a 64bit EFI and then into a 64bit kernel on the 2006/2007 Mac Pros, which apparently increases expansion card compatiblity (particularly making it possible to put unflashed PC video cards in the machine). Also, after doing this, some of the older MacPro video cards will be unsupported (such as the 7300GT). A suitable Radeon replacement is probably cheap though. It is too early to tell, but with luck the same thing can be done by dedicated MacPro owners to get 10.8. Personally, I'm very disappointed that my wife's MacBook is also on the unsupported list. I will probably end up just replacing her laptop rather than trying to hack it.

greedo 14y ago
If the hacks progress to the point where I can upgrade to a card that supports display mirroring via Airplay, I may look into it. The video card on this system is its only weak spot in terms of reliability. Too much WoW burned out two prior cards, and replacement cards are outrageous. EDIT: Now I see that it's a CPU issue, not GPU, so I'm screwed. Maybe I'll end up getting a new Mini to replace my old one for HTPC.

smashing 14y ago

What's the point of upgrading to ML? It seems pretty unimpressive.

greedo 14y ago
Airplay mirroring was the first "gotta have" feature for me, but my videocard is too old to support it, regardless of whether I can hack ML to run on my system.