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>“His only weakness was temptation,” says Rogers. For alongside Esame, his wife, and Lucy, his first love, he had numerous other lovers. Funny this is cancel-w
by itsoktocry 2y ago
>“His only weakness was temptation,” says Rogers. For alongside Esame, his wife, and Lucy, his first love, he had numerous other lovers.
Funny this is cancel-worthy sometimes, and in other times it's treated as a quaint personality trait.
Also, the Beatles aren't famous because I Want to Hold Your Hand sold 12 million copies. The Beatles have 50 multi-million selling singles.
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoOr a sign of pride or virility, reserved for (or a prerequisite to become) the rich, powerful, famous, and leaders.
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- dfxm12 2y agoI don't know who gets cancelled for having multiple lovers, even extramarital lovers. Maybe it should be cancel-worthy (depending on your definition of cancel) for people who build their careers on "family values", but it's practically a plus for a rock star.
- PaulHoule 2y agoIt depends not how many lovers you have but how you have them.
- bryanrasmussen 2y agoI think the "at times" refers to periods of times, have multiple lovers at end of the 1800s and find yourself described as absolutely irredeemable.
- PrismCrystal 2y agoDepends where at the end of the 1800s. Belle Époque France saw adultery on the part of men almost normalized among the middle and upper classes, and everyone made use of prostitutes.
- bryanrasmussen 2y agook, so it depends on time, place, gender, probably also age and occupation.
- soperj 2y agoTiger Woods. I think it was mostly because he was such a self-assured prick though, and so it was easy to pile on.
- dfxm12 2y agoDon't forget, there was also reckless driving involved there and a ton of bad press. The only fallout was losing a few of his many endorsement deals. He kept his videogame. He kept golfing. "Facing appropriate consequences for your actions" is not being cancelled.
- soperj 2y agoHe had 14 Majors, and was well on his way to passing Jack Nicklaus. He'll never pass him now.
- dfxm12 2y agoHim falling off his game is on him. Or are you really implying some entity "cancelled" Tiger Woods' golfing skills or there was some conspiracy to prevent Tiger from winning because he cheated on his wife?
- soperj 2y agoHe took a bunch of time off because of public pressure. Was never the same.
- dfxm12 2y agoI don't think Tiger sees it this way after he took a few months off. But, it is clear that the inability for people to take responsibility for their actions and instead blame some bogeyman like "cancel culture" is a big problem. Enablers and others who make excuses for them are part of the problem too.
- lern_too_spel 2y ago
- emmelaich 2y agoIt is a truth universally acknowledged, that a man, married or not, in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a bit on the side.
- PrismCrystal 2y ago> Funny this is cancel-worthy sometimes, and in other times it's treated as a quaint personality trait. You can see this same tension in Fela Kuti fandom and scholarship, where people almost have to choose between lionizing him as a anti-colonialist or anti-dictatorship hero and downplaying negative sides so that his sociopolitical impact feels more powerful, or deploring his treatment of women as something that tarnished his whole career.
- blacksqr 2y ago"I can resist anything except temptation" --Oscar Wilde
- Synaesthesia 2y agoJohn Lennon was also quite a horrible husband to Cynthia.
- racl101 2y ago> Funny this is cancel-worthy sometimes, and in other times it's treated as a quaint personality trait. Yeah sometimes you see that in passing. Some famous people seem to get a pass especially if they are not polarizing nor brazen, as opposed to, say, someone like Donald Trump. But in the end, they hurt and abuse people all the same. For example, almost every bio I've seen on YouTube about Richard Feynman treats his proclivity of banging his colleagues' wives as nothing more than some charming quirk or idiosyncrasy (usually to differentiate him from the bookish physicists of the time) at best, and a peccadillo at worst. The worst description I've read yet of his behavior was summarized as: "he just loved women." It's messed up.
- tuna74 2y agoIf women who were married to people who worked with Feynman had consensual sex with Feynman, what exactly is the problem? It might create a tense work environment, but you should be able separate work from private life.