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Or hot climates that reach >50 C

by HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago

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thaumasiotes 2y ago
There's no reason you'd ever worry about that; no one can use any object in such a climate, because they'd die.
- HPsquared 2y ago
  People definitely live in places where it gets that hot. (And note that's the air temperature in the shade, not even surface temperatures in sunlight which can get much hotter). People survive because it's not 50°C all the time in those hot places. And the wet bulb temperature is lower, so sweating works (just about) to regulate body temperature. Mostly air conditioning and shelter, though.
- latexr 2y ago
  You have not been paying attention. https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-3/Europe_braces_for_sweltering_July https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Coperni... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/22/west-africa-heatwave https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/22/west-africa-he... https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229057 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229057
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    Those links aren't shy about explaining that people exposed to that level of heat die. Here's the first one: > According to a study recently published in Nature Medicine, more than 60 000 people died because of last year’s summer heatwaves across Europe. It's not necessary for your home food storage to be able to survive temperatures that you can't. If it happens to the food in your home, it will happen to you too.
    - latexr 2y ago
      People die with less heat. But clearly not everyone, and it is not true that: > no one can use any object in such a climate, because they'd die. By the way, I know you can survive that heat because I did. No air conditioner. It was excruciating and I don’t wish it upon anyone. Well, maybe on climate change deniers, it would probably do them some good to suffer through it to believe the science. They probably wouldn’t but at least they wouldn’t be able to move to make it worse, either.
    - johnisgood 2y ago
      Not long ago this happened: https://apnews.com/article/hajj-heat-deaths-mecca-saudi-arabia-pilgrimage-9f97aae1032b14ada29bbea7108195d3 https://apnews.com/article/hajj-heat-deaths-mecca-saudi-arab... > More than 1,300 people died during this year's Hajj pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia as the faithful faced extreme high temperatures at Islamic holy sites in the desert kingdom
jajko 2y ago
Or simple locked car on a sunny day (maybe not during winter), with dark interior. This can reach >90C over an hour or two.
- KevinGlass 2y ago
  No car interior has ever reached 90C. Did you mean 90 F?
  - Retric 2y ago
    Overall temperature isn’t 90C but your lunch could be in contact with those temperatures: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2019/09/26/heres-how-hot-temperatures-can-get-in-your-car/ https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2019/09/26/heres-how-hot-t... “In a locked vehicle, a dark dashboard, steering wheel or seat can often reach temperature ranges of 180 - 200 degrees F, which then warms the air trapped inside a vehicle.” 194F is 90C. And that’s Florida, other parts of the globe have higher outdoor temperatures which result in higher internal temperatures.
  - actionfromafar 2y ago
    Maybe not far off from 90, given you can fry eggs in open air in the sun and for that you need 65. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhYkUuvDsGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhYkUuvDsGA
  - inetknght 2y ago
    > No car interior has ever reached 90C. Ever seen a car on fire? I have. Ever seen a car on fire caused by heating from the sun? Well maybe not. But I have seen an egg get cooked on the roof of a car as a demonstration.
    - dredmorbius 2y ago
      "London skyscraper can melt cars and set buildings on fire" (Sept. 3, 2013) London isn't famous for hot weather, but that may change soon, and not because of global warming: The design of a new skyscraper in the city is melting cars and setting buildings on fire.... <https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/london-skyscraper-can-melt-cars-set-buildings-fire-8C11069092 https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/london-skyscraper-can-me...> Only one of several examples. Also the Vdara hotel in the somewhat more probable location of Las Vegas, NV, the Nasher Sculpture Center and Museum Tower, both in Dallas, TX: <https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/when-buildings-attack-melted-cars-ruined-art-and-other-troubles-with-solar-convergence https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/when-buildings-attack-...>
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Or hot climates that reach >50 C

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thaumasiotes 2y ago

There's no reason you'd ever worry about that; no one can use any object in such a climate, because they'd die.

HPsquared 2y ago
People definitely live in places where it gets that hot. (And note that's the air temperature in the shade, not even surface temperatures in sunlight which can get much hotter). People survive because it's not 50°C all the time in those hot places. And the wet bulb temperature is lower, so sweating works (just about) to regulate body temperature. Mostly air conditioning and shelter, though.
latexr 2y ago
You have not been paying attention. https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-3/Europe_braces_for_sweltering_July https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Coperni... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/22/west-africa-heatwave https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/22/west-africa-he... https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229057 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229057
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  Those links aren't shy about explaining that people exposed to that level of heat die. Here's the first one: > According to a study recently published in Nature Medicine, more than 60 000 people died because of last year’s summer heatwaves across Europe. It's not necessary for your home food storage to be able to survive temperatures that you can't. If it happens to the food in your home, it will happen to you too.
  - latexr 2y ago
    People die with less heat. But clearly not everyone, and it is not true that: > no one can use any object in such a climate, because they'd die. By the way, I know you can survive that heat because I did. No air conditioner. It was excruciating and I don’t wish it upon anyone. Well, maybe on climate change deniers, it would probably do them some good to suffer through it to believe the science. They probably wouldn’t but at least they wouldn’t be able to move to make it worse, either.
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    Not long ago this happened: https://apnews.com/article/hajj-heat-deaths-mecca-saudi-arabia-pilgrimage-9f97aae1032b14ada29bbea7108195d3 https://apnews.com/article/hajj-heat-deaths-mecca-saudi-arab... > More than 1,300 people died during this year's Hajj pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia as the faithful faced extreme high temperatures at Islamic holy sites in the desert kingdom

jajko 2y ago

Or simple locked car on a sunny day (maybe not during winter), with dark interior. This can reach >90C over an hour or two.

KevinGlass 2y ago
No car interior has ever reached 90C. Did you mean 90 F?
- Retric 2y ago
  Overall temperature isn’t 90C but your lunch could be in contact with those temperatures: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2019/09/26/heres-how-hot-temperatures-can-get-in-your-car/ https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2019/09/26/heres-how-hot-t... “In a locked vehicle, a dark dashboard, steering wheel or seat can often reach temperature ranges of 180 - 200 degrees F, which then warms the air trapped inside a vehicle.” 194F is 90C. And that’s Florida, other parts of the globe have higher outdoor temperatures which result in higher internal temperatures.
- actionfromafar 2y ago
  Maybe not far off from 90, given you can fry eggs in open air in the sun and for that you need 65. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhYkUuvDsGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhYkUuvDsGA
- inetknght 2y ago
  > No car interior has ever reached 90C. Ever seen a car on fire? I have. Ever seen a car on fire caused by heating from the sun? Well maybe not. But I have seen an egg get cooked on the roof of a car as a demonstration.
  - dredmorbius 2y ago
    "London skyscraper can melt cars and set buildings on fire" (Sept. 3, 2013) London isn't famous for hot weather, but that may change soon, and not because of global warming: The design of a new skyscraper in the city is melting cars and setting buildings on fire.... <https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/london-skyscraper-can-melt-cars-set-buildings-fire-8C11069092 https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/london-skyscraper-can-me...> Only one of several examples. Also the Vdara hotel in the somewhat more probable location of Las Vegas, NV, the Nasher Sculpture Center and Museum Tower, both in Dallas, TX: <https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/when-buildings-attack-melted-cars-ruined-art-and-other-troubles-with-solar-convergence https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/when-buildings-attack-...>

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