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I mean it's not a wrong thing to think. First day of Polytechnic school, one of my instructors asked how many of us had spouses or girlfriends; about half rais

I mean it's not a wrong thing to think. First day of Polytechnic school, one of my instructors asked how many of us had spouses or girlfriends; about half raised their hands. He said very plainly that they should withdraw from the course if they valued their loved one more than their academic performance. Thing was he was being kind. The course load was targeted around 80 to 100 hours a week in year 1 and then eases off to 60 to 70 year 2 after proving you have the mental fortitude to sustain that kind of pace for more than a few weeks. Post secondary is hard. It's supposed to hard. Only 9 out of an intake of 60 graduated. We were staking a lot of money on the line that would disappear if we didn't make it through. Is it really so unreasonable to think that some people would look at that and decide they don't want to make those sacrifices even if means higher pay check afterwards?

johnnyanmac 2y ago
I guess it varies by K-12 rigor, but college was mostly easier for me... until the 4th year. that 80 hour workload was my high school, and I had no choice but to balance 5 classes + an elective every year. And ofc I pushed myself more by having an acedemic club and volunteer work. I was always so tired. My mom felt bad for being out of the house a lot, but truthfully I wasn't much different anyway and barely noticed. College, I dropped a lot of that, and my class workload dropped to 3-4 classes a quarter. It was like a huge weight was off my shoulders. less time in classes, more time to myself to choose. classes were harder but I had more time to focus down on my majors instead of being distracted by 3 GE equivalents in high school. It just fit my way of working better. ---- But I think that is part of the point: the standard line of K-12 has been falling while the line for college wants to keep trying to go up. Those determined A/B students will meet that line, but not the people doing the bare minimum to pass. A "C" is not what used to be a "C". I don't know the solution to it, but the current "solution" of grade inflation is not a direction I agree with.

johnnyanmac 2y ago

I guess it varies by K-12 rigor, but college was mostly easier for me... until the 4th year. that 80 hour workload was my high school, and I had no choice but to balance 5 classes + an elective every year. And ofc I pushed myself more by having an acedemic club and volunteer work. I was always so tired. My mom felt bad for being out of the house a lot, but truthfully I wasn't much different anyway and barely noticed. College, I dropped a lot of that, and my class workload dropped to 3-4 classes a quarter. It was like a huge weight was off my shoulders. less time in classes, more time to myself to choose. classes were harder but I had more time to focus down on my majors instead of being distracted by 3 GE equivalents in high school. It just fit my way of working better. ---- But I think that is part of the point: the standard line of K-12 has been falling while the line for college wants to keep trying to go up. Those determined A/B students will meet that line, but not the people doing the bare minimum to pass. A "C" is not what used to be a "C". I don't know the solution to it, but the current "solution" of grade inflation is not a direction I agree with.