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I am seriously concerned about this same issue, but I think "psychological castration" is maybe being a bit hyperbolic w.r.t the long term effects of amphetamin

I am seriously concerned about this same issue, but I think "psychological castration" is maybe being a bit hyperbolic w.r.t the long term effects of amphetamines at typically prescribed dosages.

Der_Einzige 2y ago
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- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  This is a very weird topic to bring up, but just using your logic: Democrats "want men back" and we do so by banning circumcision. But already democratic states in the west are where they stopped. So who's doing the circumcision again?
  - zifpanachr23 2y ago
    I don't know. I'm circumcised and I feel fine and I'm not particularly resentful about it. It's definitely weird though if you think about it too long. I just don't think it's got anything to do with much of.anything politically or socially or sexually or whatever.
    - Der_Einzige 2y ago
      Nope, no connection to bodily autonomy issues at all. Not related to tail docking, cat declawing, "my body my choice", or anything libertarian at all! Nope!
Jensson 2y ago
> but I think "psychological castration" is maybe being a bit hyperbolic w.r.t the long term effects of amphetamines at typically prescribed dosages. You see long term brain changes in kids who get prescribed Adderall, you don't see this for adults. Proponents tend to tout this as why we absolutely need to give this to kids, because they say this will permanently heal them, could just as well be permanently damaging them.
- zifpanachr23 2y ago
  I can accept this. I just have a problem with the allusion to castration, which is a long term, irreversible, and immediately noticeable thing in the typical context that the word is used. I'm concerned about potential long term changes to the brain as well. I wouldn't call that necessarily catastrophically consequential on the level that castration would be though, on account of many other drugs also causing long term and potentially negative changes to the brain. I wouldn't compare underage drinking (known to potentially have long term consequences for the brain) to castration for instance, which is why I think doing the same for amphetamine use is hyperbolic.
Aeglaecia 2y ago
you would certainly have thought somehow differently if your thinking apparatus was consistently influenced by unnatural neurotransmitter concentration during its formation
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  I mean, you act like the alternative would make you a genius somehow. It's a suppressor, not something that fundamentally changes your entire disposition. That's why "castration" is a exaggeration. What's this utopic ideal you're being sealed from if you take something like adderall in your early years? Can't make it to the NBA/NFL?
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  - Aeglaecia 2y ago
    your world view presents inconsistencies and would benefit from reflection, for example making negative judgement of exaggeration then proceeding to exaggerate yourself. such behaviour leads me to believe you are not interested in good faith and the following will be a waste of breath. I do believe that daily drug use during childhood is likely to fundamentally change that child's adult disposition. many men I have spoken to who were medicated during childhood have agreed, I have higher confidence in their opinion than yours. some kids will benefit from this. lots and lots of kids are victims of overprescription, and effectively will be mentally castrated by having spontenaiety and peaks of enjoyment crushed via permanent downregulation of the mind's reward circuitry. physically castrated too by reducing growth 10-20% which yes would probably impact ability to maximise sporting potential.

I am seriously concerned about this same issue, but I think "psychological castration" is maybe being a bit hyperbolic w.r.t the long term effects of amphetamines at typically prescribed dosages.

Der_Einzige 2y ago

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johnnyanmac 2y ago
This is a very weird topic to bring up, but just using your logic: Democrats "want men back" and we do so by banning circumcision. But already democratic states in the west are where they stopped. So who's doing the circumcision again?
- zifpanachr23 2y ago
  I don't know. I'm circumcised and I feel fine and I'm not particularly resentful about it. It's definitely weird though if you think about it too long. I just don't think it's got anything to do with much of.anything politically or socially or sexually or whatever.
  - Der_Einzige 2y ago
    Nope, no connection to bodily autonomy issues at all. Not related to tail docking, cat declawing, "my body my choice", or anything libertarian at all! Nope!

Jensson 2y ago

> but I think "psychological castration" is maybe being a bit hyperbolic w.r.t the long term effects of amphetamines at typically prescribed dosages. You see long term brain changes in kids who get prescribed Adderall, you don't see this for adults. Proponents tend to tout this as why we absolutely need to give this to kids, because they say this will permanently heal them, could just as well be permanently damaging them.

zifpanachr23 2y ago
I can accept this. I just have a problem with the allusion to castration, which is a long term, irreversible, and immediately noticeable thing in the typical context that the word is used. I'm concerned about potential long term changes to the brain as well. I wouldn't call that necessarily catastrophically consequential on the level that castration would be though, on account of many other drugs also causing long term and potentially negative changes to the brain. I wouldn't compare underage drinking (known to potentially have long term consequences for the brain) to castration for instance, which is why I think doing the same for amphetamine use is hyperbolic.

Aeglaecia 2y ago

you would certainly have thought somehow differently if your thinking apparatus was consistently influenced by unnatural neurotransmitter concentration during its formation

johnnyanmac 2y ago
I mean, you act like the alternative would make you a genius somehow. It's a suppressor, not something that fundamentally changes your entire disposition. That's why "castration" is a exaggeration. What's this utopic ideal you're being sealed from if you take something like adderall in your early years? Can't make it to the NBA/NFL?
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- Aeglaecia 2y ago
  your world view presents inconsistencies and would benefit from reflection, for example making negative judgement of exaggeration then proceeding to exaggerate yourself. such behaviour leads me to believe you are not interested in good faith and the following will be a waste of breath. I do believe that daily drug use during childhood is likely to fundamentally change that child's adult disposition. many men I have spoken to who were medicated during childhood have agreed, I have higher confidence in their opinion than yours. some kids will benefit from this. lots and lots of kids are victims of overprescription, and effectively will be mentally castrated by having spontenaiety and peaks of enjoyment crushed via permanent downregulation of the mind's reward circuitry. physically castrated too by reducing growth 10-20% which yes would probably impact ability to maximise sporting potential.