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You had to pick the most controversial example that also is poorly defensible? Guns don’t exactly have many uses besides shooting, compared to your monitor exam

You had to pick the most controversial example that also is poorly defensible? Guns don’t exactly have many uses besides shooting, compared to your monitor example. Similarly, I’d assume most people who use Jellyfin/Plex/etc acquire their content through questionably legal sources. There simply aren’t many legal avenues left to acquire DRM free media. Especially not where you’re rebroadcasting from a webpage. The “arr” suffix on this software is especially flagging - there is a popular suite of software associated with piracy and they all use the “arr” suffix. Reading source code is nice and all, but come on, that’s not the main purpose of most open source code. > Broadcastarr is a service that allows you to broadcast media content retrieved from web pages. That’s the purpose.

ndriscoll 2y ago
Two obvious sources of legal media for jellyfin are home movies and university lectures (which are generally creative commons licensed), both of which I serve on my family's instance. I believe recording broadcast television is also perfectly legal in the US, and there are still commercial products to do it. The *arr software by contrast are pretty explicit about what they're for. e.g. radarr says it will upgrade a movie you have from dvd to bluray quality via torrent or usenet, which is almost certainly illegal. It does look like they don't distribute executables though, so their repositories contain only a detailed description of the knowledge of how to perform illegal activities.
- close04 2y ago
  I think the most obvious sources of legal media are bargain bin DVDs/BRs which you are allowed to rip for personal usage and backup. This would justify all the discussions about episode numbering and so on. I have a small mountain of discs in boxes in the basement, which I bought almost for free (looking at you 17 EUR DVD box set of Friends) and will never see the light of day because they're all comfortably copied on a NAS too. Same for games, I have titles like RDR which I bought from a bargain bin while it was still very much in vogue for ~2 EUR. I can't use it as a copy but the supermarket bargain bin can be an eternal Black Friday for your media consumption.
sneak 2y ago
Yes, shooting isn’t illegal. But if you think a gun’s primary purpose is to shoot people, you misunderstand why they exist. Thermonuclear weapons weren’t built to destroy the world, either.
- doctorpangloss 2y ago
  This is an interesting thought. But you are being ridiculous, this stuff is absolutely overwhelmingly used for piracy.
- mort96 2y ago
  Am I taking crazy pills or are you making no sense? Shooting a gun is, in most places, super illegal. Even if you don't hit anyone, firing your pistol anywhere where there's people is sure to attract attention from law enforcement, unless at a specially designated area like a gun range. And what the hell are guns made for if not to shoot?? That's literally the only thing they do!
  - close04 2y ago
    GP mistakenly imagines that a gun's purpose can also be deterrent even when not shooting. In reality the deterrent ultimately comes from the threat of violence, the shooting. Everything else is a side effect derived from that one. Same goes for nukes. The best proof is that a gun which obviously cannot shoot (is visibly unloaded, disabled, etc.) doesn't act as a deterrent despite still being a gun.
    - sneak 2y ago
      Do you believe that the people who manufactured the citykiller thermonuclear fusion bombs that exist presently today did so with the express intent that they be detonated and thereby kill millions of innocent people, or do you recognize that perhaps in constructing them they might serve a different purpose than to be detonated? Guns are the reason police don’t get punched in the face or attacked with sticks. They serve this purpose even while remaining holstered.

ndriscoll 2y ago

Two obvious sources of legal media for jellyfin are home movies and university lectures (which are generally creative commons licensed), both of which I serve on my family's instance. I believe recording broadcast television is also perfectly legal in the US, and there are still commercial products to do it. The *arr software by contrast are pretty explicit about what they're for. e.g. radarr says it will upgrade a movie you have from dvd to bluray quality via torrent or usenet, which is almost certainly illegal. It does look like they don't distribute executables though, so their repositories contain only a detailed description of the knowledge of how to perform illegal activities.

close04 2y ago
I think the most obvious sources of legal media are bargain bin DVDs/BRs which you are allowed to rip for personal usage and backup. This would justify all the discussions about episode numbering and so on. I have a small mountain of discs in boxes in the basement, which I bought almost for free (looking at you 17 EUR DVD box set of Friends) and will never see the light of day because they're all comfortably copied on a NAS too. Same for games, I have titles like RDR which I bought from a bargain bin while it was still very much in vogue for ~2 EUR. I can't use it as a copy but the supermarket bargain bin can be an eternal Black Friday for your media consumption.

sneak 2y ago

Yes, shooting isn’t illegal. But if you think a gun’s primary purpose is to shoot people, you misunderstand why they exist. Thermonuclear weapons weren’t built to destroy the world, either.

doctorpangloss 2y ago
This is an interesting thought. But you are being ridiculous, this stuff is absolutely overwhelmingly used for piracy.
mort96 2y ago
Am I taking crazy pills or are you making no sense? Shooting a gun is, in most places, super illegal. Even if you don't hit anyone, firing your pistol anywhere where there's people is sure to attract attention from law enforcement, unless at a specially designated area like a gun range. And what the hell are guns made for if not to shoot?? That's literally the only thing they do!
- close04 2y ago
  GP mistakenly imagines that a gun's purpose can also be deterrent even when not shooting. In reality the deterrent ultimately comes from the threat of violence, the shooting. Everything else is a side effect derived from that one. Same goes for nukes. The best proof is that a gun which obviously cannot shoot (is visibly unloaded, disabled, etc.) doesn't act as a deterrent despite still being a gun.
  - sneak 2y ago
    Do you believe that the people who manufactured the citykiller thermonuclear fusion bombs that exist presently today did so with the express intent that they be detonated and thereby kill millions of innocent people, or do you recognize that perhaps in constructing them they might serve a different purpose than to be detonated? Guns are the reason police don’t get punched in the face or attacked with sticks. They serve this purpose even while remaining holstered.