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True but the trades are incredibly small Trade,Estimated Employment Construction Laborers,1,019,090 First-Line Supervisors of Construction Trades and Extractio

True but the trades are incredibly small Trade,Estimated Employment Construction Laborers,1,019,090 First-Line Supervisors of Construction Trades and Extraction Workers,777,420 Electricians,712,580 Carpenters,700,290 Operating Engineers and Other Construction Equipment Operators,450,370 Bls2023 Where as there’s nearly 4 million acredited teachers and 3 million registered nurses

theoreticalmal 2y ago
What do you mean incredibly small? Don’t you numbers show trade jobs are on par with nurses and teachers?
- teachrdan 2y ago
  No, it shows that all trades jobs put together make up about as many jobs as nurses OR teachers. This is some basic media literacy that needs to be used when media outlets like the Wall Street Journal publish articles suggesting that all unemployed Americans should just become electricians. (or whatever other trades job they trot out) These jobs can be lucrative for men without a college diploma but are a small fraction of jobs in the USA.
holub008 2y ago
The IWPR link from above (with data from the US BLS) suggests that the 320K women in construction trades represent 4% of the total field, implying that there are about 8 million total construction trade jobs in the US. I'm not sure how many construction workers hold 4 year degrees, but it seems plausible this would explain a large portion of the gap.
Aloisius 2y ago
The skilled trades in the BLS stats are[1]: 45-0000 Farming, Fishing, and Forestry Occupations 432,200 47-0000 Construction and Extraction Occupations 6,225,630 49-0000 Installation, Maintenance, and Repair Occupations 5,989,460 51-0000 Production Occupations 8,770,170 53-0000 Transportation and Material Moving Occupations 13,752,760 That adds up to 35 million total employed. [1] https://blog.dol.gov/2023/03/21/data-spotlight-employment-of-women-with-disabilities-in-skilled-trade-professions https://blog.dol.gov/2023/03/21/data-spotlight-employment-of...
alexnewman 2y ago
So I admit some mistakes on this post - these aren't the only trades. Sorry i got confused by chatgpt - I only meant to point out, this seems like a very small amount of people compared to what I thought - Not a mistake, but I was kindof joking with the post and it wasn't obvious. For this alone I deserved the massive downvote I got. I do think these numbers don't reflect the true number of people working in the field as say registered nurses or professional teachers because... how do i say this in a nice way.... many of them may be sharing a ssn and that's much more dangerous from a regulatory perspective than doing that as a REGISTERED nurse or PROFESSIONAL teacher. However there's a lot of peop[le nursing and teaching who aren't in those stats as well </rant

theoreticalmal 2y ago

What do you mean incredibly small? Don’t you numbers show trade jobs are on par with nurses and teachers?

teachrdan 2y ago
No, it shows that all trades jobs put together make up about as many jobs as nurses OR teachers. This is some basic media literacy that needs to be used when media outlets like the Wall Street Journal publish articles suggesting that all unemployed Americans should just become electricians. (or whatever other trades job they trot out) These jobs can be lucrative for men without a college diploma but are a small fraction of jobs in the USA.

holub008 2y ago

The IWPR link from above (with data from the US BLS) suggests that the 320K women in construction trades represent 4% of the total field, implying that there are about 8 million total construction trade jobs in the US. I'm not sure how many construction workers hold 4 year degrees, but it seems plausible this would explain a large portion of the gap.

Aloisius 2y ago

The skilled trades in the BLS stats are[1]: 45-0000 Farming, Fishing, and Forestry Occupations 432,200 47-0000 Construction and Extraction Occupations 6,225,630 49-0000 Installation, Maintenance, and Repair Occupations 5,989,460 51-0000 Production Occupations 8,770,170 53-0000 Transportation and Material Moving Occupations 13,752,760 That adds up to 35 million total employed. [1] https://blog.dol.gov/2023/03/21/data-spotlight-employment-of-women-with-disabilities-in-skilled-trade-professions https://blog.dol.gov/2023/03/21/data-spotlight-employment-of...

alexnewman 2y ago

So I admit some mistakes on this post - these aren't the only trades. Sorry i got confused by chatgpt - I only meant to point out, this seems like a very small amount of people compared to what I thought - Not a mistake, but I was kindof joking with the post and it wasn't obvious. For this alone I deserved the massive downvote I got. I do think these numbers don't reflect the true number of people working in the field as say registered nurses or professional teachers because... how do i say this in a nice way.... many of them may be sharing a ssn and that's much more dangerous from a regulatory perspective than doing that as a REGISTERED nurse or PROFESSIONAL teacher. However there's a lot of peop[le nursing and teaching who aren't in those stats as well </rant