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> Some numbers are also surprising, such as the Model Y having almost twice the fatality rate (10.6 per billion miles) as the Tesla average (5.6) My guess is t

> Some numbers are also surprising, such as the Model Y having almost twice the fatality rate (10.6 per billion miles) as the Tesla average (5.6) My guess is that is due to higher average occupancy for model Y vs model 3.

m463 2y ago
more chance of peanut butter interfering with critical touchscreen controls. Actually, I wonder... if a car is safe and avoids many accidents, could the unavoidable accidents be worse overall? Kind of like a drug that cures disease #1 blamed for causing disease #2... but actually the drug worked and the next statistical thing to die of after #1 was #2
- vardump 2y ago
  > critical touchscreen controls Just curious, what kind of critical touch screen controls Tesla has? I thought there's nothing critical.
  - two_handfuls 2y ago
    In modern teslas I believe the turn signals and windshield wipers are capacitive buttons. I guess we can argue about whether those are critical.
    - porphyra 2y ago
      Those aren't touchscreen buttons --- they are on the steering wheel or yoke. On the current Model S and X they are capacitive buttons but there's a homing tab so you can find it without looking at it, and there's also haptic feedback. On the new Model 3 iirc it also physically clicks when you press it, although the lights and rear-facing camera button are capacitive. The only "critical control" that is on the touchscreen is choosing whether to go forward or backward (aka shifting into drive or reverse), which can be done on the touchscreen on the Model S, X, 3, and Cybertruck. Of course, this is typically only done when the vehicle is stopped, so it's fine. There are also backup physical buttons in case you can't use the touchscreen.
  - m463 2y ago
    gear selector, all climate controls including defrost, interior lights, fog lights, door locks, etc... No current tesla has stalks on steering wheel, so there are areas to touch on (rotating) wheel for turn signals, wiper, high beams
porphyra 2y ago
That alone wouldn't be able to account for it. The Model 3 would need a fatality rate about a third as much as that of the Model Y to pull the average that far, seeing as the Model S has a fatality rate close to the Tesla average, and the Model X is very rare compared to the 3 and Y.

m463 2y ago

more chance of peanut butter interfering with critical touchscreen controls. Actually, I wonder... if a car is safe and avoids many accidents, could the unavoidable accidents be worse overall? Kind of like a drug that cures disease #1 blamed for causing disease #2... but actually the drug worked and the next statistical thing to die of after #1 was #2

vardump 2y ago
> critical touchscreen controls Just curious, what kind of critical touch screen controls Tesla has? I thought there's nothing critical.
- two_handfuls 2y ago
  In modern teslas I believe the turn signals and windshield wipers are capacitive buttons. I guess we can argue about whether those are critical.
  - porphyra 2y ago
    Those aren't touchscreen buttons --- they are on the steering wheel or yoke. On the current Model S and X they are capacitive buttons but there's a homing tab so you can find it without looking at it, and there's also haptic feedback. On the new Model 3 iirc it also physically clicks when you press it, although the lights and rear-facing camera button are capacitive. The only "critical control" that is on the touchscreen is choosing whether to go forward or backward (aka shifting into drive or reverse), which can be done on the touchscreen on the Model S, X, 3, and Cybertruck. Of course, this is typically only done when the vehicle is stopped, so it's fine. There are also backup physical buttons in case you can't use the touchscreen.
- m463 2y ago
  gear selector, all climate controls including defrost, interior lights, fog lights, door locks, etc... No current tesla has stalks on steering wheel, so there are areas to touch on (rotating) wheel for turn signals, wiper, high beams

porphyra 2y ago

That alone wouldn't be able to account for it. The Model 3 would need a fatality rate about a third as much as that of the Model Y to pull the average that far, seeing as the Model S has a fatality rate close to the Tesla average, and the Model X is very rare compared to the 3 and Y.