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One advantage for Microsoft is that the Linux desktop environments currently also mess around with their UIs. Maybe in the long run it may turn out well but cur

by jeltz 14y ago

One advantage for Microsoft is that the Linux desktop environments currently also mess around with their UIs. Maybe in the long run it may turn out well but currently Gnome Shell and Unity make life hard for people who just want to use Facebook.

jurre 14y ago
How does Unity make your life hard? I'm on osx myself but I love the unity interface and everyone that I've seen using it seems to easily find their way.
- jeltz 14y ago
  Change in general is bad for non-power users short term. Especially now that the interfaces grew less similar to the old windows paradigm it will get harder to steal the theoretical people escaping the Metro UI. I have personally not formed any opinion if Unity and Gnome Shell are good or not. I have used them too little to say, I primarily use XFCE myself which was very easy to get started with.
  - dredmorbius 14y ago
    Even (or especially) power users can resent gratuitous and/or negative change.
cynwoody 14y ago
I love Unity. I love that you can start things by typing just a little of what you are looking for. My normal environment is OS X, and I've grown used to using Spotlight to start apps. Cmd-Space + a few keystrokes, hit Enter. The only time I use the Dock is to resurrect the occasional hidden window. I'm too lazy to bother configuring the Dock. Start menus, even gorgeous ones like the OS X Dock, are so 1999. Similarly, when I browse the web, I rely on keystroke completion and search, not on bookmarks. I'm too lazy to maintain my bookmarks
- xtracto 14y ago
  > I love that you can start things by typing just a little of what you are looking for. That is great when you know what you are looking for... but when the image editor is called GIMP, or KRITA, the audio player is called rythmbox, the video player is called VLC, then you need to know those names in order to find what you are looking for. IIRC common users went to Windows running from having to remember MSDOS commands.
  - scorpioxy 14y ago
    I don't have that problem. I just type the word "music" and I get all the players. Typing "video" will also get me my video players. I find this to be a nice feature. I am a developer but don't have the time to tinker with every little on my desktop. For me, and with the newest version of unity, it works well enough to let me get on with my work.
  - thwarted 14y ago
    Ah, this old argument again. And when I just want to create a spreadsheet, I have to know the app is named Excel, or when I want to play a game I have to type steam.
jbarham 14y ago
> Gnome Shell and Unity make life hard for people who just want to use Facebook How? I installed Ubuntu on an old laptop for my wife and she finds it as easy as ever to do email and Facebook because essentially the only app she ever runs is Chrome and it's locked in the Launcher. She doesn't even know that Unity exists so it's certainly not making life hard for her.
- cdh 14y ago
  Isn't this the perfect use case for Windows 8, though? Your wife would have no trouble finding the Internet Explorer (or even Chrome) tile prominently featured on the Metro UI launch screen.

by jeltz 14y ago

jurre 14y ago

How does Unity make your life hard? I'm on osx myself but I love the unity interface and everyone that I've seen using it seems to easily find their way.

jeltz 14y ago
Change in general is bad for non-power users short term. Especially now that the interfaces grew less similar to the old windows paradigm it will get harder to steal the theoretical people escaping the Metro UI. I have personally not formed any opinion if Unity and Gnome Shell are good or not. I have used them too little to say, I primarily use XFCE myself which was very easy to get started with.
- dredmorbius 14y ago
  Even (or especially) power users can resent gratuitous and/or negative change.

cynwoody 14y ago

I love Unity. I love that you can start things by typing just a little of what you are looking for. My normal environment is OS X, and I've grown used to using Spotlight to start apps. Cmd-Space + a few keystrokes, hit Enter. The only time I use the Dock is to resurrect the occasional hidden window. I'm too lazy to bother configuring the Dock. Start menus, even gorgeous ones like the OS X Dock, are so 1999. Similarly, when I browse the web, I rely on keystroke completion and search, not on bookmarks. I'm too lazy to maintain my bookmarks

xtracto 14y ago
> I love that you can start things by typing just a little of what you are looking for. That is great when you know what you are looking for... but when the image editor is called GIMP, or KRITA, the audio player is called rythmbox, the video player is called VLC, then you need to know those names in order to find what you are looking for. IIRC common users went to Windows running from having to remember MSDOS commands.
- scorpioxy 14y ago
  I don't have that problem. I just type the word "music" and I get all the players. Typing "video" will also get me my video players. I find this to be a nice feature. I am a developer but don't have the time to tinker with every little on my desktop. For me, and with the newest version of unity, it works well enough to let me get on with my work.
- thwarted 14y ago
  Ah, this old argument again. And when I just want to create a spreadsheet, I have to know the app is named Excel, or when I want to play a game I have to type steam.

jbarham 14y ago

> Gnome Shell and Unity make life hard for people who just want to use Facebook How? I installed Ubuntu on an old laptop for my wife and she finds it as easy as ever to do email and Facebook because essentially the only app she ever runs is Chrome and it's locked in the Launcher. She doesn't even know that Unity exists so it's certainly not making life hard for her.

cdh 14y ago
Isn't this the perfect use case for Windows 8, though? Your wife would have no trouble finding the Internet Explorer (or even Chrome) tile prominently featured on the Metro UI launch screen.