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by glassounds 2y ago
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- newspaper1 2y agoHow could that possibly be true when the only people perpetuating this word are groups like the ADL, Israel... If what you said was true, all of these Zionist institutions wouldn't be promoting it.
- glassounds 2y agoI can promise you that "the ADL and Israel and the Zionist institutions" are not the only ones using the term "antisemitism". I'd personally prefer that it'd be called anti Jewish racism.
- newspaper1 2y agoThey are the main institutions using the term as a weapon, and the discussion here is based on Netanyahu's own words.
- thomassmith65 2y agoI checked wikipedia, and actually it states the same as the parent comment. That sentence has five references. It doesn't shock me, given the era, but rather than speculate and squabble, someone could check the references and see if they really do support the statement in the wiki.
- newspaper1 2y agoSo all of these Jewish institutions are promoting an anti Jewish word? Please explain why they would do that.
- glassounds 2y agoThey're using the current common terminology for the phenomenon, which does not have the roots you claimed it has.
- newspaper1 2y agoThat's the point, it doesn't matter what the origin was, how it is being used now is what is being critiqued.
- thomassmith65 2y agoI assume hardly anyone remembered, or payed much mind, to the origin of that word by the 1920s. I don't know who coined 'homophobia' or 'feminism' or many other concepts; they're just common words we use.
- newspaper1 2y agoRight, so the word as it's used today is what we're talking about. It's being used as a weapon to silence criticism of Israel and Zionism in general.
- thomassmith65 2y agoI dunno. Regardless of the exact words one uses, one can always accuse one's opponent of bias. If the word 'antisemitic' didn't exist, the accusation, phrased in different words, would still carry weight.
- newspaper1 2y agoAnd I would complain about the false accusation if that was the case. As it stands "antisemitism" is what's being used to label people who oppose Zionism. It's just like how "communism" was used during McCarthyism.
- thomassmith65 2y agoI think the accusations are sometimes unfair, and other times accurate. I wouldn't like for the world just to dismiss hatred towards Jews, or any other group, out-of-hand. More than anything, I would like to see measured and humane discussion in the media about the Middle East; but sadly I don't expect that will happen.
- newspaper1 2y agoThe amount of unfair accusations dwarfs any real ones. For instance many in the VC world have accused Paul Graham of being antisemitic for simply showing concern about Palestinians. To be clear no critique of Israel including that you don't think it has a right to exist is "antisemitic". Israel is a state not an ethnicity and it was formed under what most consider to be illegal and unethical circumstances and it grew through ethnic cleansing. It's official religion is of no consequence when judging its actions.