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>The fact that it's the only country he's been able to visit since the warrant was issued Putin has visited around 20 countries after this ICC warrant includin

>The fact that it's the only country he's been able to visit since the warrant was issued Putin has visited around 20 countries after this ICC warrant including UAE, Saudi Arabia, China, Armenia, Vietnam , India (planned), Uzbekistan ... Start here and start counting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_presidential_trips_made_by_Vladimir_Putin#2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_presiden... But I know you wont. Your response will be shifting some goal posts like "these are not real countries because they don't exist in my coloring book"

aguaviva 2y ago
I stand corrected: "The fact that he's only been able to visit a relative handful of countries -- nearly all of which were traditional Cold War allies (and several of these being current or former vassal states) -- indicates that, by and large, the warrant is working as intended." BTW the number is 9, not 20.
- nickff 2y ago
  Not grandparent, but where are you getting 9? I get 16 from the Wiki: Tajikistan Turkmenistan Iran Uzbekistan Kazakhstan Armenia Kyrgyzstan Belarus China United Arab Emirates Saudi Arabia North Korea Vietnam Azerbaijan Mongolia Turkmenistan
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    I'm looking at the bullet lists for 2023-2024, whereas it seems you may be looking at the table of all post-2022 visits (several of which were before the warrant was issued).
  - sgjohnson 2y ago
    Several of the countries listed are not members of the ICC, so they don’t really count here.
- runarberg 2y ago
  I count 12. However only Mongolia is a member of the ICC, 3 (Kyrgyzstan, UAE and Uzbekistan) have signed the Rome Statute, but have not ratified it, and none of the other 8 (China, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Vietnam, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan) has even signed it. Russia it self has signed it, but, like the USA and Israel, has notified the Secretary General that they have no intention of ratifying it.

aguaviva 2y ago

I stand corrected: "The fact that he's only been able to visit a relative handful of countries -- nearly all of which were traditional Cold War allies (and several of these being current or former vassal states) -- indicates that, by and large, the warrant is working as intended." BTW the number is 9, not 20.

nickff 2y ago
Not grandparent, but where are you getting 9? I get 16 from the Wiki: Tajikistan Turkmenistan Iran Uzbekistan Kazakhstan Armenia Kyrgyzstan Belarus China United Arab Emirates Saudi Arabia North Korea Vietnam Azerbaijan Mongolia Turkmenistan
- aguaviva 2y ago
  I'm looking at the bullet lists for 2023-2024, whereas it seems you may be looking at the table of all post-2022 visits (several of which were before the warrant was issued).
- sgjohnson 2y ago
  Several of the countries listed are not members of the ICC, so they don’t really count here.
runarberg 2y ago
I count 12. However only Mongolia is a member of the ICC, 3 (Kyrgyzstan, UAE and Uzbekistan) have signed the Rome Statute, but have not ratified it, and none of the other 8 (China, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Vietnam, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan) has even signed it. Russia it self has signed it, but, like the USA and Israel, has notified the Secretary General that they have no intention of ratifying it.