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>a) Most people are mobile first I couldn't imagine trying to build a complex route on a tiny screen with a crappy phone UI. I am starting to feel like an old

>a) Most people are mobile first I couldn't imagine trying to build a complex route on a tiny screen with a crappy phone UI. I am starting to feel like an old man yelling at clouds here. Why in the hell wouldn't you prefer to use a nice monitor with a mouse for a complex task like this?

verelo 2y ago
I mean, i made the remark and I feel the same as you. I think its just the reality of the world we live in. A lot of people are mobile first, watching a neighbours kid try use a mouse the other day really drilled it home for me. Put her on a phone? No issues. But on the laptop the kid was as lost as I was when my dad showed me a slide rule (i'm 38).
asdff 2y ago
Because you might plan a route while already out on your bike
- 0_____0 2y ago
  I just did this today! I got routed up a cow path and had to shoo cows out of my way as I hiked my bike up a canyon.
david-gpu 2y ago
> I couldn't imagine trying to build a complex route on a tiny screen with a crappy phone UI. I nearly always plan routes on my phone. After all, it's the device I use for navigation attached to the stem of my bike. > Why in the hell wouldn't you prefer to use a nice monitor with a mouse for a complex task like this? The task isn't very complex with a decent UI. See for example the open-source app OSMAnd (Android & iPhone). Also, I am rarely at my desk, but I always have my phone on me. There can also be the issue of "Neat, I made a route on a big screen; now, how do I get it on my phone for real-time navigation?" depending on the app you are using.
antasvara 2y ago
Obviously not a representative sample, but I'd say ~25% of the people I know have a monitor and mouse, and the majority of that group only use it for work. Thia isn't to say you're wrong. I much prefer my monitor and mouse for anything of reasonable complexity. But I increasingly find myself in the minority in that regard among people I know. Hell, I even find myself in the minority for using a laptop for tasks sometimes.

verelo 2y ago

I mean, i made the remark and I feel the same as you. I think its just the reality of the world we live in. A lot of people are mobile first, watching a neighbours kid try use a mouse the other day really drilled it home for me. Put her on a phone? No issues. But on the laptop the kid was as lost as I was when my dad showed me a slide rule (i'm 38).

asdff 2y ago

Because you might plan a route while already out on your bike

0_____0 2y ago
I just did this today! I got routed up a cow path and had to shoo cows out of my way as I hiked my bike up a canyon.

david-gpu 2y ago

> I couldn't imagine trying to build a complex route on a tiny screen with a crappy phone UI. I nearly always plan routes on my phone. After all, it's the device I use for navigation attached to the stem of my bike. > Why in the hell wouldn't you prefer to use a nice monitor with a mouse for a complex task like this? The task isn't very complex with a decent UI. See for example the open-source app OSMAnd (Android & iPhone). Also, I am rarely at my desk, but I always have my phone on me. There can also be the issue of "Neat, I made a route on a big screen; now, how do I get it on my phone for real-time navigation?" depending on the app you are using.

antasvara 2y ago

Obviously not a representative sample, but I'd say ~25% of the people I know have a monitor and mouse, and the majority of that group only use it for work. Thia isn't to say you're wrong. I much prefer my monitor and mouse for anything of reasonable complexity. But I increasingly find myself in the minority in that regard among people I know. Hell, I even find myself in the minority for using a laptop for tasks sometimes.