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It’s really rather simple. Anyone on this planet only has as much authority as their guns provide them. The people who operate these courts have fewer guns than
by aphantastic 2y ago
It’s really rather simple. Anyone on this planet only has as much authority as their guns provide them. The people who operate these courts have fewer guns than the US, so they don’t get authority over US interests.
- Cumpiler69 2y agoOf course. Isn't it obvious how in history books the "good guys" were always those with the most guns who ended up defeating the guys with less guns, who lost and were always the bad guys, 100% of the time? What a strange coincidence.
- mywittyname 2y agoHistory is full of "winners" that who are seen as "bad guys."
- School-Cotton 2y agoDo you have an example of someone who is widely regarded as "good guys" that you disagree with?
- s1artibartfast 2y agowhat exactly do you think would happen differently if you took the US out of the picture?
- aphantastic 2y agoIsrael wouldn’t exist.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoit wouldn't pop out of existence magically
- aphantastic 2y agoYes. And?
- s1artibartfast 2y agoI dont see the point of making the ICC judgement about the US.
- aphantastic 2y agoTrue. The court is immaterial, the guns are the only authority. As I said.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoyes, and in this case, the relevant guns are those of the ICC and Israel. The court has no army or power, while Israel does, so US guns are already irrelevant. Israel doesnt need US military protection form the ICC any more than it needs US protection from random critics.
- aphantastic 2y agoGuns don’t exist in a vacuum. They need constant financial support. US provides that support. Without US, they have no support. Without support, they have no guns. Don’t just take my word for it, look at all the published requests Israel has made for American gun money.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoThey have more than enough capability on their own to fend off a toothless judge in Europe. You cant apply the realities of a 3 front national war to a weak court order. Furthermore, I think you are highly overestimating their US dependency. US Aid amounts to a small percentage of the domestic Israeli defense budget. I can ask for a free food at costco, but that doesnt mean I'll starve without it.
- Retric 2y agoUS interests is a very broad category, it frequently doesn’t get its way. There’s tit for tat involved where things might escalate to the point where the US kills some people via airstrikes, but it simply can’t escalate everything to a full on war.
- Cumpiler69 2y ago> it frequently doesn’t get its way Not for the lack of trying though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_policy_in_the_Middle_East https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_policy_i... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_U...
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- aphantastic 2y agoDo we have many examples of cases where countries have held US soldiers or commanders of allied nations captive without repercussion?
- Retric 2y agoDoes Garry Powers count? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Gary_Powers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Gary_Powers “He served 21 months of his sentence before being released in a prisoner swap in 1962.” So no actual retaliation, and we gave up something they wanted for him.
- aphantastic 2y agoThat’s what we would call “the exception that proves the rule”.