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I tried reading this article with genuine interest but the page crashed for me on iOS :( This seems to be happening more often in the back half of 2024. IGN cr

by tyleo 2y ago

I tried reading this article with genuine interest but the page crashed for me on iOS :( This seems to be happening more often in the back half of 2024. IGN crashes nearly every page view for me these days.

TYPE_FASTER 2y ago
Not to mention the popup that scrolled me back to the beginning of the article.
- tyleo 2y ago
  Agreed. Also happened to me on this page and I’ve seen it become more common. I wonder if there is a common gaming-related ad service which does this since it feels like the EXACT behavior I see on IGN.
relaxatorium 2y ago
Incentivizing publishers to load massive amounts of third party JavaScript was an industry mistake and the people who write JavaScript for ads are profoundly irresponsible and unprofessional.
- freehorse 2y ago
  Which is why i block all 3rd party js by default. If your website requires 3rd party js and it is not essential for me to really visit it, most prob i am just gonna close it.
bschwindHN 2y ago
This is because sites like this shove ads in every conceivable whitespace on the page, so you have ads/videos/images and JavaScript loading and executing from all corners of the internet. What was once a page that was supposed to give you text and images is now executing all kinds of shit you don't want or need, burning up your CPU and battery and giving you a truly horrible, janky experience even on newer phones or desktops. If you visit these sites on older phones, it's truly excruciating. All for some text of what could have been a comment on a site like this, or a blog post on a statically-hosted site which costs next to nothing to run. Here was my experience on an M1 Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM, in Safari with no extensions: https://imgur.com/RDv2n7Z https://imgur.com/RDv2n7Z This is why I have absolutely zero qualms with using an ad blocker to the fullest extent I can. I hate what these people do to computers.
- tyleo 2y ago
  I love that you captured this! Ironically as I watched your video on Imgur, a full screen ad popped up over top of it on Imgur itself :,(
  - bschwindHN 2y ago
    The irony of uploading it to imgur is not lost on me :) I could host videos myself if I still had a 2 gigabit connection but that was left behind in my most recent move.
    - prophesi 2y ago
      I feel you there. And my recent move was into a city, too, that ended up having even less options than my previous suburban abode. They never laid down fiber here and still have no plans to.
  - AndrewStephens 2y ago
    Yeah, that link showed the intended content taking up about a quarter of my screen real estate with the rest being ads. It was a ad-inception.
- keybored 2y ago
  That gif says it all. I was reading this article on an Iphone some hours ago. But gave up because of the ads.
  - wruza 2y ago
    Guys, just stop watching ads. Ads are so 201x. AdGuard is available on ios for at least a decade now. No, it’s not a separate “adblock browser”. It works as a content filtering rules source for Safari. It does not see what you’re doing or visiting (unless you insist in the settings).
- js2 2y ago
  Here it is on an iPhone 13 mini running the latest iOS with AdGuard content blocker and Stop The Madness Pro extensions enabled: https://imgur.com/a/aBBvVum https://imgur.com/a/aBBvVum I can't load the page at all without the extensions. On AdGuard I'm using only the content blocker filters that don't have access to the page itself, not the advanced filter which does. The AdGuard content blocker is my favorite for Safari even on desktop. I can't imagine browsing without it enabled.
elicksaur 2y ago
I recently started using Firefox Focus enabled as an extension in iOS Safari, and it works great as an ad blocker. The op site loads for me. Was a hn rec from another thread I think. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-focus-privacy-browser/id1055677337 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-focus-privacy-browser/...
- bee_rider 2y ago
  Same here. Hilarious that anti-annoyance software is now needed, not only to make sites nicer, but to make them functional.
sfury 2y ago
It's not even that good of an article. I tried to understand what Hall Effect is and what its advantages are, but it was so vague, beating around the bush and forwarding you to other articles on their site, that I gave up and searched on the YT mechanical keyboards channels instead. Here's a nice intro review of a Hall Effect keyboard, from Switch and Click, which explains its features and differences compared to a normal switch keyboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNANUquoXOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNANUquoXOA
- reaperducer 2y ago
  I tried to understand what Hall Effect is and what its advantages are, but it was so vague, beating around the bush and forwarding you to other articles on their site, that I gave up and searched on the YT mechanical keyboards channels instead. Hall effect switches have been used in model railroading for a couple of generations now. Very often to stop and start engines in hard-to-reach places with a wand. Here's an explanation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor
  - sfury 2y ago
    Much appreciated, glad to learn something new today.
throwaway0394 2y ago
iOS is genuinely terrible. I appreciate the point that so is web design for many sites, but even if you ignore that, 97% of bugs on our product with no cookies, ads, analytics etc come from iOS. My favourite time burner right now is when apple pushed for new viewport units and then don't respect them. Their address bar animated design is atrocious.
- carlosjobim 2y ago
  iOS comes with the setting to open every web page in reader view by default, which kills all ads, cookie popus, autoplaying videos, sticky headers, etc. It's not hard to design beautiful and usable websites, which works on all devices from the past 10-15 years.

by tyleo 2y ago

TYPE_FASTER 2y ago

Not to mention the popup that scrolled me back to the beginning of the article.

tyleo 2y ago
Agreed. Also happened to me on this page and I’ve seen it become more common. I wonder if there is a common gaming-related ad service which does this since it feels like the EXACT behavior I see on IGN.

relaxatorium 2y ago

Incentivizing publishers to load massive amounts of third party JavaScript was an industry mistake and the people who write JavaScript for ads are profoundly irresponsible and unprofessional.

freehorse 2y ago
Which is why i block all 3rd party js by default. If your website requires 3rd party js and it is not essential for me to really visit it, most prob i am just gonna close it.

bschwindHN 2y ago

This is because sites like this shove ads in every conceivable whitespace on the page, so you have ads/videos/images and JavaScript loading and executing from all corners of the internet. What was once a page that was supposed to give you text and images is now executing all kinds of shit you don't want or need, burning up your CPU and battery and giving you a truly horrible, janky experience even on newer phones or desktops. If you visit these sites on older phones, it's truly excruciating. All for some text of what could have been a comment on a site like this, or a blog post on a statically-hosted site which costs next to nothing to run. Here was my experience on an M1 Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM, in Safari with no extensions: https://imgur.com/RDv2n7Z https://imgur.com/RDv2n7Z This is why I have absolutely zero qualms with using an ad blocker to the fullest extent I can. I hate what these people do to computers.

tyleo 2y ago
I love that you captured this! Ironically as I watched your video on Imgur, a full screen ad popped up over top of it on Imgur itself :,(
- bschwindHN 2y ago
  The irony of uploading it to imgur is not lost on me :) I could host videos myself if I still had a 2 gigabit connection but that was left behind in my most recent move.
  - prophesi 2y ago
    I feel you there. And my recent move was into a city, too, that ended up having even less options than my previous suburban abode. They never laid down fiber here and still have no plans to.
- AndrewStephens 2y ago
  Yeah, that link showed the intended content taking up about a quarter of my screen real estate with the rest being ads. It was a ad-inception.
keybored 2y ago
That gif says it all. I was reading this article on an Iphone some hours ago. But gave up because of the ads.
- wruza 2y ago
  Guys, just stop watching ads. Ads are so 201x. AdGuard is available on ios for at least a decade now. No, it’s not a separate “adblock browser”. It works as a content filtering rules source for Safari. It does not see what you’re doing or visiting (unless you insist in the settings).
js2 2y ago
Here it is on an iPhone 13 mini running the latest iOS with AdGuard content blocker and Stop The Madness Pro extensions enabled: https://imgur.com/a/aBBvVum https://imgur.com/a/aBBvVum I can't load the page at all without the extensions. On AdGuard I'm using only the content blocker filters that don't have access to the page itself, not the advanced filter which does. The AdGuard content blocker is my favorite for Safari even on desktop. I can't imagine browsing without it enabled.

elicksaur 2y ago

I recently started using Firefox Focus enabled as an extension in iOS Safari, and it works great as an ad blocker. The op site loads for me. Was a hn rec from another thread I think. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-focus-privacy-browser/id1055677337 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-focus-privacy-browser/...

bee_rider 2y ago
Same here. Hilarious that anti-annoyance software is now needed, not only to make sites nicer, but to make them functional.

sfury 2y ago

It's not even that good of an article. I tried to understand what Hall Effect is and what its advantages are, but it was so vague, beating around the bush and forwarding you to other articles on their site, that I gave up and searched on the YT mechanical keyboards channels instead. Here's a nice intro review of a Hall Effect keyboard, from Switch and Click, which explains its features and differences compared to a normal switch keyboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNANUquoXOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNANUquoXOA

reaperducer 2y ago
I tried to understand what Hall Effect is and what its advantages are, but it was so vague, beating around the bush and forwarding you to other articles on their site, that I gave up and searched on the YT mechanical keyboards channels instead. Hall effect switches have been used in model railroading for a couple of generations now. Very often to stop and start engines in hard-to-reach places with a wand. Here's an explanation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor
- sfury 2y ago
  Much appreciated, glad to learn something new today.

throwaway0394 2y ago

iOS is genuinely terrible. I appreciate the point that so is web design for many sites, but even if you ignore that, 97% of bugs on our product with no cookies, ads, analytics etc come from iOS. My favourite time burner right now is when apple pushed for new viewport units and then don't respect them. Their address bar animated design is atrocious.

carlosjobim 2y ago
iOS comes with the setting to open every web page in reader view by default, which kills all ads, cookie popus, autoplaying videos, sticky headers, etc. It's not hard to design beautiful and usable websites, which works on all devices from the past 10-15 years.