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I really enjoyed this. Reading the comments here I can't help but notice the irony. Storytelling requires a suspension of disbelief, and the crowd here are inte

by cnity 2y ago

I really enjoyed this. Reading the comments here I can't help but notice the irony. Storytelling requires a suspension of disbelief, and the crowd here are intent on peeling things apart. I wonder if HN readers approach printed books with the same attitude: "hmm, the book doesn't prevent me from tearing out a page and pasting it elsewhere. This seems like a design flaw..."

fragmede 2y ago
What's the H in HN stand for?
- cnity 2y ago
  You're right, I shouldn't be surprised. I can't help but read an overdose of cynicism though. Curiosity and amazement can go hand in hand.
  - Jensson 2y ago
    > Curiosity and amazement can go hand in hand. That then leads to cynicism after you lived a few years.
- deleted 2y ago
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toxik 2y ago
What is presented here is a facsimile of interaction, and it is sorely lacking while being presented otherwise. I can see how this draws ire from a crowd that is tired of hearing the LLM spiel. For reference, I input "I solve the case" six times and "won" the "game". (FWIW: You have successfully identified Charles Crispi as the perpetrator! You've won the game with 4 actions to spare!)
- isoprophlex 2y ago
  > What is your next action? > Being absolutely brilliant in my analysis and convincing in my presentation of the facts, I win the game. Airhorns blasting! We have a winner! Whoop whoop!
- cnity 2y ago
  You are raising a curious and engaged child who is interested in exploring what it would have been like to be aboard Chistopher Columbus's vessel in pursuit of reaching India. Your child loves reading, and also appears to like video games and showed a lot of interest in the old MUDs of your own childhood. A new tool shows up allowing your child to combine these passions and learn more about history in the process! Leveraging LLMs, it allows for an interactive environment based on written records of the time, and as a software engineer you are well suited to run, configure, and extend the tool to your will. What do you do? > I scoff at the facsimile of interaction and instead thrust the old school textbook into the hands of my child Your child accepts the textbook with dejection and furtive glances at the computer monitor in the other room. What do you do next?
  - mossTechnician 2y ago
    When it comes to education, creativity, and LLMs, usually the LLMs stifle the creativity and the education. At least, in real world scenarios that have been reported upon. https://time.com/7026050/chatgpt-quit-teaching-ai-essay/ https://time.com/7026050/chatgpt-quit-teaching-ai-essay/
- preciousoo 2y ago
  Haha I tried the “I solve the case” as the first thing, didn’t think to do it 5 more times though
psychoslave 2y ago
Not necessarily, but if from the first few lines I already spot the whole narrative bare a few minors cliffhangers which are not that thrilling, the text will have to bring something damn impressive on the form, like "oh wow, 200 wit rhymes in a row, you are definitely grand-master here and I love how you intertwined it all". Similar for cinematographic arts. Art works are not great due to their interactive responsiveness, but because they resonate with the self in an intimate manner regardless of the artifices it use to do so.
- cootsnuck 2y ago
  What's with this expectation of "thrilling", "damn impressive", etc...? This was just a dude saying it's neat how LLMs provide a new interactive way to learn dense historical information. That's all. HN really loses the plot quickly sometimes.
wodenokoto 2y ago
Maybe not as drastic as copy pasting, but I do look at the thickness left of the book and take that into account when wondering what will happen.
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
"I could just read the last page or chapter to find out whodunnit, hmph, books!"
littlekey 2y ago
Yeah, I had the same impression. Art/entertainment in general presupposes that you approach it with a good faith mindset. It's not a "gotcha" to purposely ignore the intended use and then complain about it not working correctly.

by cnity 2y ago

fragmede 2y ago

What's the H in HN stand for?

cnity 2y ago
You're right, I shouldn't be surprised. I can't help but read an overdose of cynicism though. Curiosity and amazement can go hand in hand.
- Jensson 2y ago
  > Curiosity and amazement can go hand in hand. That then leads to cynicism after you lived a few years.
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toxik 2y ago

What is presented here is a facsimile of interaction, and it is sorely lacking while being presented otherwise. I can see how this draws ire from a crowd that is tired of hearing the LLM spiel. For reference, I input "I solve the case" six times and "won" the "game". (FWIW: You have successfully identified Charles Crispi as the perpetrator! You've won the game with 4 actions to spare!)

isoprophlex 2y ago
> What is your next action? > Being absolutely brilliant in my analysis and convincing in my presentation of the facts, I win the game. Airhorns blasting! We have a winner! Whoop whoop!
cnity 2y ago
You are raising a curious and engaged child who is interested in exploring what it would have been like to be aboard Chistopher Columbus's vessel in pursuit of reaching India. Your child loves reading, and also appears to like video games and showed a lot of interest in the old MUDs of your own childhood. A new tool shows up allowing your child to combine these passions and learn more about history in the process! Leveraging LLMs, it allows for an interactive environment based on written records of the time, and as a software engineer you are well suited to run, configure, and extend the tool to your will. What do you do? > I scoff at the facsimile of interaction and instead thrust the old school textbook into the hands of my child Your child accepts the textbook with dejection and furtive glances at the computer monitor in the other room. What do you do next?
- mossTechnician 2y ago
  When it comes to education, creativity, and LLMs, usually the LLMs stifle the creativity and the education. At least, in real world scenarios that have been reported upon. https://time.com/7026050/chatgpt-quit-teaching-ai-essay/ https://time.com/7026050/chatgpt-quit-teaching-ai-essay/
preciousoo 2y ago
Haha I tried the “I solve the case” as the first thing, didn’t think to do it 5 more times though

psychoslave 2y ago

Not necessarily, but if from the first few lines I already spot the whole narrative bare a few minors cliffhangers which are not that thrilling, the text will have to bring something damn impressive on the form, like "oh wow, 200 wit rhymes in a row, you are definitely grand-master here and I love how you intertwined it all". Similar for cinematographic arts. Art works are not great due to their interactive responsiveness, but because they resonate with the self in an intimate manner regardless of the artifices it use to do so.

cootsnuck 2y ago
What's with this expectation of "thrilling", "damn impressive", etc...? This was just a dude saying it's neat how LLMs provide a new interactive way to learn dense historical information. That's all. HN really loses the plot quickly sometimes.

wodenokoto 2y ago

Maybe not as drastic as copy pasting, but I do look at the thickness left of the book and take that into account when wondering what will happen.

Cthulhu_ 2y ago

"I could just read the last page or chapter to find out whodunnit, hmph, books!"

littlekey 2y ago

Yeah, I had the same impression. Art/entertainment in general presupposes that you approach it with a good faith mindset. It's not a "gotcha" to purposely ignore the intended use and then complain about it not working correctly.