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Wild that one would pick the only platform with a rubbish VMs and CI story as the OS to use for building software!

ramon156 2y ago
If the worst case works, the best case will follow I suppose :P
veidr 2y ago
What's wild about it? It's one person, and they probably mainly use a Mac. If they used Windows, it would be Windows-only at this stage. I have lots of projects that only run on Linux. Clearly, if the project succeeds and gains tractions, the other platforms will come.
- cardanome 2y ago
  With Linux you can dockerize it and make available for all all platforms. With Mac you only reach people that have access to Mac. I mean for a personal project they can use whatever they want. Just and odd choice to start with if you want the project to gain traction.
- gorjusborg 2y ago
  It assume it will severely limit its uptake. If I had to pick one platform to build on, it would be linux. Pretty much every platform has the ability to run linux executables (via Docker, among others). If this is a personal project, that's cool, but then I really don't care that much. On the other hand, I think an electron-like with something like Bun could be really useful.
  - stickfigure 2y ago
    At least here in the US, the majority of developers daily drive macs on their desktop. Even (especially!) the ones that deploy exclusively on linux. Having to run a docker container to get the dev env setup would be even more likely to slow adoption. Nobody wants to do that shit.
    - gertop 2y ago
      > At least here in the US, the majority of developers daily drive macs on their desktop. The majority of WEB developers.
    - gorjusborg 2y ago
      But almost nobody uses MacOS to run CI, which is usually how artifacts are built for the field. Having linux support first means people can actually use this for production (this project seems from from ready for that anyway) with some inconvenience for local dev. MacOS only means I can work with it on my machine, but can't actually build it using CI/CD.
      - Klonoar 2y ago
        I mean, GitHub Runners supports macOS for CI just fine.
        gorjusborg 2y ago
        Okay, fair. I don't have metrics, but I bet linux is far and away the CI platform of choice. I am not trying to bash this, but rather say that mac only is likely to limit usage. Early on that can be okay, but there are many people who will be turned off immediately.
    - fassssst 2y ago
      Citation needed, Windows is probably still bigger as Macs are expensive.
    - leptons 2y ago
      >At least here in the US, the majority of developers daily drive macs on their desktop Citation needed. This assertion seems very anecdotal.
      - kibwen 2y ago
        Recently I saw someone assert that "almost nobody uses 1080p monitors anymore". Meanwhile the Steam Hardware Survey shows that 1080p is the majority resolution among PC gamers, and almost 2/3 of users have a monitor that is 1080p or smaller. Humans have shown that we cannot even conceive of a reality outside our bubbles.
- rozap 2y ago
  It's totally fine if it just supports one platform. Just don't say it's cross platform when it's not.
  - conductr 2y ago
    The apps you build are cross-platform apps. The tool itself isn’t. That’s how I read it anyways, nothing misleading that I saw
    - jonasdoesthings 2y ago
      the apps you build will be cross-platform "soon" (no specific timeframe) https://electrobun.dev/docs/guides/Compatability https://electrobun.dev/docs/guides/Compatability
      - conductr 2y ago
        It’s the HN link description that’s confusing y’all then? Because the home page, where you clicked before navigating to the compatibility page, says they “aim… to be cross-platform” says nothing of that being the current state
yr5teoes7s 2y ago
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If the worst case works, the best case will follow I suppose :P

What's wild about it? It's one person, and they probably mainly use a Mac. If they used Windows, it would be Windows-only at this stage. I have lots of projects that only run on Linux. Clearly, if the project succeeds and gains tractions, the other platforms will come.

cardanome 2y ago
With Linux you can dockerize it and make available for all all platforms. With Mac you only reach people that have access to Mac. I mean for a personal project they can use whatever they want. Just and odd choice to start with if you want the project to gain traction.
gorjusborg 2y ago
It assume it will severely limit its uptake. If I had to pick one platform to build on, it would be linux. Pretty much every platform has the ability to run linux executables (via Docker, among others). If this is a personal project, that's cool, but then I really don't care that much. On the other hand, I think an electron-like with something like Bun could be really useful.
- stickfigure 2y ago
  At least here in the US, the majority of developers daily drive macs on their desktop. Even (especially!) the ones that deploy exclusively on linux. Having to run a docker container to get the dev env setup would be even more likely to slow adoption. Nobody wants to do that shit.
  - gertop 2y ago
    > At least here in the US, the majority of developers daily drive macs on their desktop. The majority of WEB developers.
  - gorjusborg 2y ago
    But almost nobody uses MacOS to run CI, which is usually how artifacts are built for the field. Having linux support first means people can actually use this for production (this project seems from from ready for that anyway) with some inconvenience for local dev. MacOS only means I can work with it on my machine, but can't actually build it using CI/CD.
    - Klonoar 2y ago
      I mean, GitHub Runners supports macOS for CI just fine.
      - gorjusborg 2y ago
        Okay, fair. I don't have metrics, but I bet linux is far and away the CI platform of choice. I am not trying to bash this, but rather say that mac only is likely to limit usage. Early on that can be okay, but there are many people who will be turned off immediately.
  - fassssst 2y ago
    Citation needed, Windows is probably still bigger as Macs are expensive.
  - leptons 2y ago
    >At least here in the US, the majority of developers daily drive macs on their desktop Citation needed. This assertion seems very anecdotal.
    - kibwen 2y ago
      Recently I saw someone assert that "almost nobody uses 1080p monitors anymore". Meanwhile the Steam Hardware Survey shows that 1080p is the majority resolution among PC gamers, and almost 2/3 of users have a monitor that is 1080p or smaller. Humans have shown that we cannot even conceive of a reality outside our bubbles.
rozap 2y ago
It's totally fine if it just supports one platform. Just don't say it's cross platform when it's not.
- conductr 2y ago
  The apps you build are cross-platform apps. The tool itself isn’t. That’s how I read it anyways, nothing misleading that I saw
  - jonasdoesthings 2y ago
    the apps you build will be cross-platform "soon" (no specific timeframe) https://electrobun.dev/docs/guides/Compatability https://electrobun.dev/docs/guides/Compatability
    - conductr 2y ago
      It’s the HN link description that’s confusing y’all then? Because the home page, where you clicked before navigating to the compatibility page, says they “aim… to be cross-platform” says nothing of that being the current state

yr5teoes7s 2y ago

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