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I find it faschinating how much Shopify has invested in Ruby / Rails, at what point will Shopify just merge with the Ruby Team?

gardenhedge 2y ago
Shopify also owns remix/react router
dismalaf 2y ago
Probably never. DHH wants to keep Rails small enough that a 1 person founder can use it and be productive with it. Shopify is already massive and some of their projects are taking them in a different direction than DHH wants for Rails. For example, Liquid templates (which are intentionally less powerful than ERB since they're designed to be used by Shopify store owners) and Sorbet (DHH hates types).
- Onavo 2y ago
  Their pet web framework remix is also quite underfunded compared to Next.js
  - gedy 2y ago
    DHH joining won't help that I suspect
- ksec 2y ago
  > Sorbet (DHH hates types). I believe Sorbet is from Stripe?
  - fjyasdlkjw 2y ago
    I hope this leads to DHH adopting Sorbet into Rails given Shopify has a strong interest in it. On second thought, It is a large investment for something that isn't a core Ruby feature.
  - dismalaf 2y ago
    Ugh, all the companies that start with S and use Ruby. My bad. Got thrown off because they have Sorbet stuff in Ruby LSP and other Sorbet tools. They have 1.1k Github repos... Lots of TS, Go, Rust and lots of non-Rails things...
moomoo11 2y ago
Do people still use rails?
- coffeeindex 2y ago
  Obviously?
  - moomoo11 2y ago
    Hm okay I was curious because I remember how popular rails got around like 2012-2014. Since then I feel like most people just opt for go/node instead in my experience. Better performance and easier to deploy and scale.
    - Alifatisk 2y ago
      I would say the hype around Rails has settled since a long time ago, that is maybe why you feel that but now since Rails 8, it is gathering a little bit momentum again. But you should correlate what the talk of the town is with how much something is being used, it is still heavily used and a good option for startups.
- deciduously 2y ago
  https://israilsdead.com/ https://israilsdead.com/

gardenhedge 2y ago

Shopify also owns remix/react router

dismalaf 2y ago

Probably never. DHH wants to keep Rails small enough that a 1 person founder can use it and be productive with it. Shopify is already massive and some of their projects are taking them in a different direction than DHH wants for Rails. For example, Liquid templates (which are intentionally less powerful than ERB since they're designed to be used by Shopify store owners) and Sorbet (DHH hates types).

Onavo 2y ago
Their pet web framework remix is also quite underfunded compared to Next.js
- gedy 2y ago
  DHH joining won't help that I suspect
ksec 2y ago
> Sorbet (DHH hates types). I believe Sorbet is from Stripe?
- fjyasdlkjw 2y ago
  I hope this leads to DHH adopting Sorbet into Rails given Shopify has a strong interest in it. On second thought, It is a large investment for something that isn't a core Ruby feature.
- dismalaf 2y ago
  Ugh, all the companies that start with S and use Ruby. My bad. Got thrown off because they have Sorbet stuff in Ruby LSP and other Sorbet tools. They have 1.1k Github repos... Lots of TS, Go, Rust and lots of non-Rails things...

moomoo11 2y ago

Do people still use rails?

coffeeindex 2y ago
Obviously?
- moomoo11 2y ago
  Hm okay I was curious because I remember how popular rails got around like 2012-2014. Since then I feel like most people just opt for go/node instead in my experience. Better performance and easier to deploy and scale.
  - Alifatisk 2y ago
    I would say the hype around Rails has settled since a long time ago, that is maybe why you feel that but now since Rails 8, it is gathering a little bit momentum again. But you should correlate what the talk of the town is with how much something is being used, it is still heavily used and a good option for startups.
deciduously 2y ago
https://israilsdead.com/ https://israilsdead.com/