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Umm.. this is a severe recency bias. What about all the things that humans can do that robots/AI haven’t yet shown promise in at all. Like basically any sculptu
by aabhay 2y ago
Umm.. this is a severe recency bias. What about all the things that humans can do that robots/AI haven’t yet shown promise in at all. Like basically any sculptural art, glass blowing, knot tying, or almost any athletic sport at competitive level like soccer. While you might say “that’s just a hardware problem not an intelligence problem”, you ignore the fact that robotics researchers have been working on this problem for decades and are nowhere near this goal. Even in simulation, we don’t have a compelling mechanism for autonomous completion of a task like driving cross country if it involves fixing a tire.
I personally consider the physically embodied tasks extremely challenging for AI because it involves continuous real time sensory integration and extensive nuanced tool use
- robotresearcher 2y agoIn the small league of RoboCup, games progress faster than humans can really follow, let alone participate in. Those robots are low mass and sensing is done off-board. But it’s real time. Boy, is it.
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- aabhay 2y agoI am not arguing that humans are better than AI at everything. But if you set the goal post at human-comparison you have to go apples to apples. Even non AI, even a digital calculator is better than every math genius combined at finding the 10 billionth digit of pi.
- xenocratus 2y agoNever heard of this before, but watching a few videos, the difference between small league and standard platform league is shocking, and highlights why the small league seems so impressive. Basically, in the small league the interaction with the real world is as sanitised as possible. It all seems tailored to make it easier to build those robots, so of course they're pretty good at it. > games progress faster than humans can really follow, let alone participate in Call me when Standard Platform League is like that ;)
- robotresearcher 2y ago> It all seems tailored to make it easier to build those robots, so of course they're pretty good at it. They didn't used to be very good at all. There's a lot of achievement you're describing with that 'of course'. Progress was made where progress was available. Of course humans are good at real soccer. We are duration-running social tribal animals with incredibly efficient actuators and energy storage. It seems tailored for us. Robots are good at other things. Edit for footnote: The space of things robots are good at is not very large compared to humans. I've been in the robot business thirty years and watching their ecological niches grow oh-so-slowly.
- drewcoo 2y ago> Umm.. this is a severe recency bias. Don't all "successful" prophecies have that?