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Thanks for the info. We don't use any private data, only publicly available images. So it won't be a problem, in my opinion. I will contact my lawyer and doubl

Thanks for the info. We don't use any private data, only publicly available images. So it won't be a problem, in my opinion. I will contact my lawyer and double check this.

matteason 2y ago
You might want to look up Clearview AI, who also took publicly available images, performed biometric recognition on them and ended up with a €30.5 million fine: https://blog.barracuda.com/2024/10/23/clearview-ai-fine-gdpr-violations https://blog.barracuda.com/2024/10/23/clearview-ai-fine-gdpr...
- vignesh_warar 2y ago
  I just did research on this. Clearview vs Introthem: - Clearview does photo-to-photo matching. We don't do that, and I don't think I will ever build that. - You have to provide the name, then we build the faces collection for analyzing at search time and delete it. - We don't retain any face collection once the search is done. I still don't know if I am breaking any laws, but here is how Introthem works.
  - mathgeek 2y ago
    You should definitely find out if you are breaking any laws.
    - josefritzishere 2y ago
      100% this is illegal in Illinois. They have specific biometric data protections. Probably also a crime elsewhere.
      - knxnts 2y ago
        yes. and there will be more state laws in the future. seems like it would raise some FCRA concerns to me.
wongarsu 2y ago
The GDPR works on the personally-identifiable vs anonymous distinction. Private vs public doesn't really factor into it, or at least only becomes relevant in the nuances. Personally identifiable data is just a mouthful, which is why people like to misleadingly shorten it to private data.
1659447091 2y ago
Not only the EU, but you will have to check with each of the 50 US states as they all have a patchwork of laws. Illinois was one of the first, but I don't know much about it; I thought I read it was pretty extensive to the point some facial recognition companies specifically exclude it. Texas also has its own version as well, that I know of; again don't know details.

Thanks for the info. We don't use any private data, only publicly available images. So it won't be a problem, in my opinion. I will contact my lawyer and double check this.

matteason 2y ago

You might want to look up Clearview AI, who also took publicly available images, performed biometric recognition on them and ended up with a €30.5 million fine: https://blog.barracuda.com/2024/10/23/clearview-ai-fine-gdpr-violations https://blog.barracuda.com/2024/10/23/clearview-ai-fine-gdpr...

vignesh_warar 2y ago
I just did research on this. Clearview vs Introthem: - Clearview does photo-to-photo matching. We don't do that, and I don't think I will ever build that. - You have to provide the name, then we build the faces collection for analyzing at search time and delete it. - We don't retain any face collection once the search is done. I still don't know if I am breaking any laws, but here is how Introthem works.
- mathgeek 2y ago
  You should definitely find out if you are breaking any laws.
  - josefritzishere 2y ago
    100% this is illegal in Illinois. They have specific biometric data protections. Probably also a crime elsewhere.
    - knxnts 2y ago
      yes. and there will be more state laws in the future. seems like it would raise some FCRA concerns to me.

wongarsu 2y ago

The GDPR works on the personally-identifiable vs anonymous distinction. Private vs public doesn't really factor into it, or at least only becomes relevant in the nuances. Personally identifiable data is just a mouthful, which is why people like to misleadingly shorten it to private data.

1659447091 2y ago

Not only the EU, but you will have to check with each of the 50 US states as they all have a patchwork of laws. Illinois was one of the first, but I don't know much about it; I thought I read it was pretty extensive to the point some facial recognition companies specifically exclude it. Texas also has its own version as well, that I know of; again don't know details.