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This is the 2nd time China did this in that Baltic isn't it? Both times look intentional.. maybe don't allow Chinese ships in the Baltic?
by TinkersW 2y ago
This is the 2nd time China did this in that Baltic isn't it? Both times look intentional.. maybe don't allow Chinese ships in the Baltic?
- tossandthrow 2y agoThat would not swing. Denmark controls the waters of the seaway to Sct. Petersburg and Kaliningrad that are some of the strategically most important ports of Russia. Blocking of traffic to these would be a severe escalation. Regularly Russian subs pass through Danish waters - controlled and allowed.
- Tade0 2y agoDamaging infrastructure is already a severe escalation. Should not have done that.
- tossandthrow 2y ago[flagged]
- tallanvor 2y agoNuclear war is not a realistic concern, luckily. If it was, it would have happened after the first "red line" Russia claimed the west had crossed.
- tokai 2y agoOn the contrary, chilling would endanger everyone living the in the free world even further.
- Tade0 2y agoNot American - I'm Polish. I've got friends who got drafted already (if only for training) so it's entirely possible I'll join them eventually. My take is that Russia's plan is to continue sabotaging and a weak (or lack of) response to that only emboldens them. Also nuclear war with what? Their recent Satan II ICBM test demonstrated that they don't necessarily have the technical chops to launch anything sufficiently capable and it must have come as a surprise to them as well.
- p2detar 2y agoWe were chill since 2014 if not earlier. It brought nothing but pain both to Ukrainians and to us in the West. It doesn’t work.
- meindnoch 2y agoIt's high time for the West to man up and solve the Russian problem once and for all.
- malermeister 2y agoHow severe an escalation would it be? As severe as... say starting the largest war in Europe since WW2 right at our doorstep? Or as damaging our critical infrastructure? Or manipulating our democratic processes? It's time the West pulls its head out of its ass. We're already at war, whether we want it or not.
- rightbyte 2y ago[flagged]
- malermeister 2y agoI don't think I have a cause. I'd like to not be constantly attacked by foreign adversaries, is that a cause? But if attacks happen, we can't just ignore them because hitting back might make the abuser more mad.
- rightbyte 2y ago[flagged]
- talldayo 2y agoAm I missing something, or do you post peacenik appeasement demands under every HN submission? It's such a radically stupid position that I'm legitimately starting to think you're a Russian propagandist. Why would any rational country appease a madman? Because people like you write internet comments about pissing your pants? If we reach the "to [sic] late YOLO" stage it won't matter what options we picked. That's why appeasement is a fundamentally pointless idea that the US has refused for decades. If you even once play the "give a mouse a cookie" game you will end up surrendering everything to a power that can threaten you with nuclear terrorism. Only a moron would appease Russia in this scenario.
- rightbyte 2y agoI could be anyone except you. I don't see the relevance in speculating about that. The US have no qualms appeasing Netanyahu. Biden and his party was even fine arguably losing the election over it. I don't see any contradiction there. Russia and the US from time to time more or less arbitrarily bombs or invades some other country. I guess Russia's Holywood need to make better movies depicting their own soldiers as victims of their own wars. Still glorying though. There is work to be done there for sure. The two I've seen depicted soldiers as pathetic losers. I mean, trying to economically, socially and culturally isolate the US would probably make it wreck even more mayhem over the world than trying to have cultural exchange, be nice, and what not. And when this fails not throwing yourself on a spike might be preferable.
- mihaaly 2y agoI'd consider the serious escalation of offensive (cowardly) acts were carried out by Russia many many years ago repeatedly, increasingly, throughout Europe (elsewhere too), with mild consequences. Got seriously unabashed escalating further. Being cautious with the nazi Germany blew into the face of the World, will definitely not work with the imperialist Russia either. China acts on behalf of Russia here - Russia being coward for open confrontation with anyone (believed by them) able hitting back hard. China has secondary benefits for self as well.
- rightbyte 2y ago[flagged]
- lowbloodsugar 2y agoWas it Shakespeare who wrote “Discretion is the better part of valor”? That level of cynicism might be appropriate here. The cowardice is on the European side, surely?
- euroderf 2y ago> Regularly Russian subs pass through Danish waters - controlled and allowed. I've always wondered how subs handle tidal flows there, and how challenging the tidal flows are.
- Arnt 2y agoNo it isn't. Both of the two Chinese registries are open, pretty much anyone can register ships there. It's a bit like the .tv domain — if you see something.tv you can't assume that it's a company in the country Tuvalu. Look at the nationality of the captain and the beneficial owner instead.
- lowbloodsugar 2y agoRight. So they might need some motivation to change that.
- frontalier 2y agowhat are you implying? how do you intend to "motivate" a sovereign country?
- account42 2y agoAnd as a result .tv domains are not exactly trusted and can't be used for all the things reputable domains can be used for.
- Arnt 2y agoIIRC abuse correlates closely with the price of registration for the first year, and poorly or not at all with how open the registration policy is.