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All of your points rely upon the assumption that Craisglist "owns" all of the posts submitted. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but if that is true then wo

All of your points rely upon the assumption that Craisglist "owns" all of the posts submitted. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but if that is true then wouldn't that extend to Facebook owning all content submitted to their service, Twitter owning all tweets, Flickr owning all hosted photos, and Stack Overflow owning all submitted answers?

danso 14y ago
So what you're suggesting is that if a service put "noindex" in its robots/metatags, they would be somehow be overstepping the bounds of what they can do with their users' content?
- pdeuchler 14y ago
  Not at all... that's a bit of a strawman since robots.txt/metatags are used by search engines and not the public in general. Not wanting your data on Google != Denying access to said content
debacle 14y ago
Craigslists owns the unique compilation of their listings. That's what is at stake here.
- pdeuchler 14y ago
  Is it? In my interpretation it is the content of the listings, not the compilation. He could compile the data from several different sources and present the same result.
- stcredzero 14y ago
  As far as I know, in the US they don't.
- ricardobeat 14y ago
  And there's no copyright infringement as long as your compilation, based on their publicly available data, is also unique, which PadMapper's is. This has lots of precedents dating back to services derived from phonebooks.
  - mthoms 14y ago
    I am interested in this. Can you point me to one or more of these precedents? Thanks in advance.
    - ricardobeat 14y ago
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications_v._Rural_Telephone_Service http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications_v._Rural_Tel...
- malandrew 14y ago
  What constitutes a "unique compilation" is subject to interpretation in a court of law. Adding/removing/modifying and changing the arrangement or display of items in a dataset sufficiently constitutes a dataset unique from the one Craigslist offers even if it is largely derivative from the Craigslist dataset. Craigslist could argue a trespass to chattels tort or file a ToS civil suit, but there isn't much they can do to protect a dataset. The reason Facebook makes Facebook content largely available only to those who are logged in is to hide behind their ToS and prevent scraping whether centralized or distributed.
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danso 14y ago

So what you're suggesting is that if a service put "noindex" in its robots/metatags, they would be somehow be overstepping the bounds of what they can do with their users' content?

pdeuchler 14y ago
Not at all... that's a bit of a strawman since robots.txt/metatags are used by search engines and not the public in general. Not wanting your data on Google != Denying access to said content

debacle 14y ago

Craigslists owns the unique compilation of their listings. That's what is at stake here.

pdeuchler 14y ago
Is it? In my interpretation it is the content of the listings, not the compilation. He could compile the data from several different sources and present the same result.
stcredzero 14y ago
As far as I know, in the US they don't.
ricardobeat 14y ago
And there's no copyright infringement as long as your compilation, based on their publicly available data, is also unique, which PadMapper's is. This has lots of precedents dating back to services derived from phonebooks.
- mthoms 14y ago
  I am interested in this. Can you point me to one or more of these precedents? Thanks in advance.
  - ricardobeat 14y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications_v._Rural_Telephone_Service http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications_v._Rural_Tel...
malandrew 14y ago
What constitutes a "unique compilation" is subject to interpretation in a court of law. Adding/removing/modifying and changing the arrangement or display of items in a dataset sufficiently constitutes a dataset unique from the one Craigslist offers even if it is largely derivative from the Craigslist dataset. Craigslist could argue a trespass to chattels tort or file a ToS civil suit, but there isn't much they can do to protect a dataset. The reason Facebook makes Facebook content largely available only to those who are logged in is to hide behind their ToS and prevent scraping whether centralized or distributed.

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