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> What's the basis for the claim that the Cass Review was written with political goals directly in mind? Is this just based on the conclusion of the report, or

> What's the basis for the claim that the Cass Review was written with political goals directly in mind? Is this just based on the conclusion of the report, or is there actual substance for this statement? Cass meeting with DeSantis staffers [1], for one [1] https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/cass-met-with-desantis-pick-over https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/cass-met-with-desantis-pi... > Notably, Hilary Cass met with Patrick Hunter, a member of the anti-trans Catholic Medical Association who played a significant role in the development of the Florida Review and Standards of Care under Republican Governor Ron DeSantis.

Manuel_D 2y ago
This meeting was held after the Cass Review was published, so it's odd to try and use it to discredit the review itself. Furthermore, Hilary Cass met with hundreds of people to discuss the findings of the review. Is any researcher who ever speaks with Ron DeSantis simply disqualified in your view? Including research published before meeting him?
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- strangecasts 2y ago
  No, she met with Hunter before it was published: > A followup email from Hunter indicates that he met with Cass on September 22, 2022 (ECF 184-1). Even as Paul Vazquez wanted to invite Cass to the Board of Medicine hearing as a subject matter expert, Hunter felt that would put her “in a difficult position”: Why downplay this link in a discussion about the politicization of science?
  - Manuel_D 2y ago
    The interim report - which had the same findings that gender affirming care in minors had scant evidence - was published in March 2022. Also, that quote is not appearing anywhere in the linked article. Did you post the wrong link? Again, is the mere fact that Cass - whose job is to advise governments on healthcare - met with someone in government supposed to disqualify the review as politically motivated? What, specifically, did this DeSantis staffer change in the Cass Review? This is just straightforward attempts at guilt by association. Given that Cass' job is to advise government on healthcare, meeting with government staffers is hardly surprising.
    - strangecasts 2y ago
      > Also, that quote is not appearing anywhere in the linked article. Did you post the wrong link? Linked in the article, about her meeting with Hunter https://genderanalysis.net/2023/11/new-trial-exhibits-in-doe-v-ladapo-doh-worked-with-genspect-leaders-stella-omalley-and-joe-burgo-in-july-2022-hilary-cass-met-segms-patrick-hunter-to-discuss-floridas-ant/ https://genderanalysis.net/2023/11/new-trial-exhibits-in-doe... > This is just straightforward attempts at guilt by association. Call him a "government staffer" all you like, let's call it what it is: her meeting with an explicitly religious interest group
      - Manuel_D 2y ago
        Again, can you point out how the report was influenced. We have the interim report published before Cass met with this staffer. We have the final report published after this meeting. Can you elaborate on how it was changed at the behest of this staffer?

Manuel_D 2y ago

This meeting was held after the Cass Review was published, so it's odd to try and use it to discredit the review itself. Furthermore, Hilary Cass met with hundreds of people to discuss the findings of the review. Is any researcher who ever speaks with Ron DeSantis simply disqualified in your view? Including research published before meeting him?

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strangecasts 2y ago
No, she met with Hunter before it was published: > A followup email from Hunter indicates that he met with Cass on September 22, 2022 (ECF 184-1). Even as Paul Vazquez wanted to invite Cass to the Board of Medicine hearing as a subject matter expert, Hunter felt that would put her “in a difficult position”: Why downplay this link in a discussion about the politicization of science?
- Manuel_D 2y ago
  The interim report - which had the same findings that gender affirming care in minors had scant evidence - was published in March 2022. Also, that quote is not appearing anywhere in the linked article. Did you post the wrong link? Again, is the mere fact that Cass - whose job is to advise governments on healthcare - met with someone in government supposed to disqualify the review as politically motivated? What, specifically, did this DeSantis staffer change in the Cass Review? This is just straightforward attempts at guilt by association. Given that Cass' job is to advise government on healthcare, meeting with government staffers is hardly surprising.
  - strangecasts 2y ago
    > Also, that quote is not appearing anywhere in the linked article. Did you post the wrong link? Linked in the article, about her meeting with Hunter https://genderanalysis.net/2023/11/new-trial-exhibits-in-doe-v-ladapo-doh-worked-with-genspect-leaders-stella-omalley-and-joe-burgo-in-july-2022-hilary-cass-met-segms-patrick-hunter-to-discuss-floridas-ant/ https://genderanalysis.net/2023/11/new-trial-exhibits-in-doe... > This is just straightforward attempts at guilt by association. Call him a "government staffer" all you like, let's call it what it is: her meeting with an explicitly religious interest group
    - Manuel_D 2y ago
      Again, can you point out how the report was influenced. We have the interim report published before Cass met with this staffer. We have the final report published after this meeting. Can you elaborate on how it was changed at the behest of this staffer?