> And if NATO/EU starts to crumble a few years down (not likely, but if it does) that would raise the probability of some form attack quite substantially. This

> And if NATO/EU starts to crumble a few years down (not likely, but if it does) that would raise the probability of some form attack quite substantially. This is a speculation that leads to even more speculative possibilities. Quite a big distance from alarmist comments „if Ukraine falls they will come to us“. Definitely a topic for NATO analysts, but for us mostly science fiction. Why aren’t we talking about more probable scenarios? > My own take is that, if one is taken under the spell of such sophistry and nonsense -- ultimately, it happens through one's own volition. Fully agree on that, yet this is not explaining why would Putin attack NATO.