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> Right, so the conversation has pivoted No. Your claim, which I disagree with is "he explicitly stated he wants to use the military domestically to retain pow

> Right, so the conversation has pivoted No. Your claim, which I disagree with is "he explicitly stated he wants to use the military domestically to retain power and clean out the US". How is it to retain power? > the DOE provides [...] Yea, of course it does something. But it's not unspeakably bad to not have that department do that. As I said, nearly every other country in the world "suffers" from not having a DOE, because they have no other countries sharing a pool of education funding with them. Somehow their people seem to accept that and even favor independence. > If you're not aware, Project 2025 is a blueprint for how to transition the US to a fascist regime. I'm not aware. I just looked up their website which listed their aims. Fascist regime wasn't among them. What's your source for that?

consteval 2y ago
> How is it to retain power? Deploying the military as intimidation and using it to remove US citizens is a ploy to retain power. That's in addition to his other power plays, such as stripping the bureaucracy and requiring all federal employees to formally announce their loyalty to Trump. That one's in Project 2025. If that doesn't sound like fascism I don't know what does. And you keep asking me for sources. Yeah, Trump, his administration, and Project 2025. You know, the stuff you voted for? If you're trying to not make Trump supporters look like bumbling idiots you're not doing a particularly good job. Naturally, I already know most Trump supports are horribly misinformed about their own platform, so don't try so hard to further prove it to me.
- foxglacier 2y ago
  > Deploying the military as intimidation and using it to remove US citizens is a ploy to retain power. He wanted to use it to protect election security if there was violence or intimidation from "internal enemies". That's not intimidation, except to intimidate people trying to intimidate voters to corrupt elections. Who are these citizens he wants to deport? Are they only naturalized citizens? Those people can already legally be deported anyway for reasons like a fraudulent application or committing a serious crime. Are those the same ones he wants to deport? In other words, does he just want to enforce the law that already exists? Regardless, that's not to retain power. You have no evidence for that part which is key to your whole claim. Everything else you claimed is just what the government should be doing anyway.

consteval 2y ago

> How is it to retain power? Deploying the military as intimidation and using it to remove US citizens is a ploy to retain power. That's in addition to his other power plays, such as stripping the bureaucracy and requiring all federal employees to formally announce their loyalty to Trump. That one's in Project 2025. If that doesn't sound like fascism I don't know what does. And you keep asking me for sources. Yeah, Trump, his administration, and Project 2025. You know, the stuff you voted for? If you're trying to not make Trump supporters look like bumbling idiots you're not doing a particularly good job. Naturally, I already know most Trump supports are horribly misinformed about their own platform, so don't try so hard to further prove it to me.

foxglacier 2y ago
> Deploying the military as intimidation and using it to remove US citizens is a ploy to retain power. He wanted to use it to protect election security if there was violence or intimidation from "internal enemies". That's not intimidation, except to intimidate people trying to intimidate voters to corrupt elections. Who are these citizens he wants to deport? Are they only naturalized citizens? Those people can already legally be deported anyway for reasons like a fraudulent application or committing a serious crime. Are those the same ones he wants to deport? In other words, does he just want to enforce the law that already exists? Regardless, that's not to retain power. You have no evidence for that part which is key to your whole claim. Everything else you claimed is just what the government should be doing anyway.