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> Since 2012 its IT giants collapsed You are talking about different Russia then. Yandex, VK, Sber, Wilderries have firm grip over Russian digital economy and

> Since 2012 its IT giants collapsed You are talking about different Russia then. Yandex, VK, Sber, Wilderries have firm grip over Russian digital economy and apparently heavily investing in new technology, including AI. Thanks to sanctions they have to worry even less about competition (AliExpress and Chinese electronics are notable exceptions). Banks and telecoms are doing well too. > In 10-15 years the education will falter because of the today's brain drain I don’t see it. The education system on average is degrading quickly, but it’s the inequality rising, not loss of capabilities. Top tier schools remain very competitive globally — better than e.g. in most of Europe including Germany. Top tier universities remain very competitive in STEM. This is not path to irrelevance, but rather to a specialization.

lostmsu 2y ago
> grip over Russian digital economy It is essentially forced use, on the large scale they are getting farther and farther behind. > investing in new technology, including AI If it was still 2010 I could see Yandex having a model somewhere near the top of https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard but today I'd be surprised if they can compete at all. > Top tier universities remain very competitive in STEM. This is not path to irrelevance, but rather to a specialization. I was talking about 10-15 years from now. When the old profs have to retire, who will teach if the majority of students are gone abroad? Of my MSU CS class basically everyone left, definitely the ones who could teach. And that was waaay before 2022 happened.
- ivan_gammel 2y ago
  >It is essentially forced use, on the large scale they are getting farther and farther behind. You were just saying they collapsed, now they are simply falling behind. Care to elaborate? Any evidence? Yes, they achieved what their Western counterparts only dream of - unchecked market dominance.
  - lostmsu 2y ago
    > You were just saying they collapsed, now they are simply falling behind Lol, they did collapse, to the boundaries of Russia. Yandex was worldwide, VK had ambition getting there. > Yes, they achieved what their Western counterparts only dream of - unchecked market dominance. Aha-ha-ha-ha-ha. This is so laughable. You made me cry almost. Tell that to Apple. Or NVidia. Or Amazon. Or Google. I feel like if you are not a bot, you are in some kind of dream or delusion world. Would these obvious counterexamples even move your position?

lostmsu 2y ago

> grip over Russian digital economy It is essentially forced use, on the large scale they are getting farther and farther behind. > investing in new technology, including AI If it was still 2010 I could see Yandex having a model somewhere near the top of https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard but today I'd be surprised if they can compete at all. > Top tier universities remain very competitive in STEM. This is not path to irrelevance, but rather to a specialization. I was talking about 10-15 years from now. When the old profs have to retire, who will teach if the majority of students are gone abroad? Of my MSU CS class basically everyone left, definitely the ones who could teach. And that was waaay before 2022 happened.

ivan_gammel 2y ago
>It is essentially forced use, on the large scale they are getting farther and farther behind. You were just saying they collapsed, now they are simply falling behind. Care to elaborate? Any evidence? Yes, they achieved what their Western counterparts only dream of - unchecked market dominance.
- lostmsu 2y ago
  > You were just saying they collapsed, now they are simply falling behind Lol, they did collapse, to the boundaries of Russia. Yandex was worldwide, VK had ambition getting there. > Yes, they achieved what their Western counterparts only dream of - unchecked market dominance. Aha-ha-ha-ha-ha. This is so laughable. You made me cry almost. Tell that to Apple. Or NVidia. Or Amazon. Or Google. I feel like if you are not a bot, you are in some kind of dream or delusion world. Would these obvious counterexamples even move your position?