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Not every web browser gets money from Google - Brave, Vivaldi, Pale Moon, Konqueror, Epiphany, Ladybird, Servo, to name a few.

dismalaf 2y ago
Vivaldi's business model is primarily revenue from deals with search providers. they don't exclusively get money from Google, they get money from all their search partners, including Google. Brave is into crypto scams and advertising scams, so I guess you're right there. Their revenue is also tiny. The rest aren't what I'd call "real" browsers, most don't have the same level of functionality and compatibility as Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Edge... Servo for example is literally just the rendering engine Firefox gave up on.
madeofpalk 2y ago
Do Brave and Vivaldi fund actual browser (engine) development, or are they just using open source Chromium (as they're able to)? Konqueror and Epiphany are Webkit based, so presumably benefit from Apple's funding of Webkit. Ladybird and Servo aren't real browsers yet, and have so far been funded by grants which doesn't seem to be long-term stable.
ryho 2y ago
Brave is just Chrome in a trench coat. I am pretty sure all the others are based on something else or are not actually a fully robust browser.
- niutech 2y ago
  Konqueror, Servo and Ladybird have their own web engine.
  - dismalaf 2y ago
    Servo isn't a web browser, its just an engine. Ladybird isn't close to usable and Konqueror well, feels like 2005...
    - niutech 2y ago
      Technically Servoshell is a browser bundled with Servo engine.
    - willywanker 2y ago
      What's wrong with 2005 where desktop user experience goes? Why is the new sexy only 'let us remove all user choice and customization, throw decades of stable desktop UI features like menu bars, tooltips, keyboard shortcuts and mouse optimized icons, simply stretch a mobile touchscreen onto a widescreen display with gigantic fonts and dumbed down icons and call it a day'?
      - jenadine 2y ago
        Because you can only browse pages from 2005 with KHTML (Standards evolves and KHTML hasn't been kept up to date in that respect)
- BrendanEich 2y ago
  Ignorance is bliss, I'm here to bring enlightenment: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-Chromium-%28features-we-disable-or-remove%29 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-... https://brave.com/privacy-updates https://brave.com/privacy-updates

dismalaf 2y ago

Vivaldi's business model is primarily revenue from deals with search providers. they don't exclusively get money from Google, they get money from all their search partners, including Google. Brave is into crypto scams and advertising scams, so I guess you're right there. Their revenue is also tiny. The rest aren't what I'd call "real" browsers, most don't have the same level of functionality and compatibility as Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Edge... Servo for example is literally just the rendering engine Firefox gave up on.

madeofpalk 2y ago

Do Brave and Vivaldi fund actual browser (engine) development, or are they just using open source Chromium (as they're able to)? Konqueror and Epiphany are Webkit based, so presumably benefit from Apple's funding of Webkit. Ladybird and Servo aren't real browsers yet, and have so far been funded by grants which doesn't seem to be long-term stable.

ryho 2y ago

Brave is just Chrome in a trench coat. I am pretty sure all the others are based on something else or are not actually a fully robust browser.

niutech 2y ago
Konqueror, Servo and Ladybird have their own web engine.
- dismalaf 2y ago
  Servo isn't a web browser, its just an engine. Ladybird isn't close to usable and Konqueror well, feels like 2005...
  - niutech 2y ago
    Technically Servoshell is a browser bundled with Servo engine.
  - willywanker 2y ago
    What's wrong with 2005 where desktop user experience goes? Why is the new sexy only 'let us remove all user choice and customization, throw decades of stable desktop UI features like menu bars, tooltips, keyboard shortcuts and mouse optimized icons, simply stretch a mobile touchscreen onto a widescreen display with gigantic fonts and dumbed down icons and call it a day'?
    - jenadine 2y ago
      Because you can only browse pages from 2005 with KHTML (Standards evolves and KHTML hasn't been kept up to date in that respect)
BrendanEich 2y ago
Ignorance is bliss, I'm here to bring enlightenment: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-Chromium-%28features-we-disable-or-remove%29 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-... https://brave.com/privacy-updates https://brave.com/privacy-updates