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I’m of two minds on this. 1. This is a great idea for really cash strapped offices (that somehow have great internet?) or super quick deployments. As long as y
by dagmx 2y ago
I’m of two minds on this.
1. This is a great idea for really cash strapped offices (that somehow have great internet?) or super quick deployments. As long as you only use Windows.
2. This is basically a PCoiP box a few years later. But locked to a single backend…which is not the best value proposition. But it does help with reducing client side maintenance.
3. The base M4 Mac mini is a far better value proposition if you don’t fall exclusively into the above two categories. Fast local compute, workers don’t stop when the Internet goes out, and not tied to a single backend provider.
- toast0 2y agoI feel like $350 is a pretty high price for a cash strapped office. You can get an acceptable desktop pc from BestBuy for $250 [1]. It's not great, but it'll probably work. Yes, it's a clearance price, but there's always something on clearance. [1] https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-1tb-ssd-black/6532244.p?skuId=6532244 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-desktop-intel-core-i7-1...
- ndriscoll 2y agoAn i7-13700 and 16 GB of DDR4-3200 seems pretty great to me. My i5-6600k is still way more than adequate, and that thing is ~6x more capable. Honestly a $160 N100 minipc is probably more than enough for office work.
- dagmx 2y agoThere’s the other aspects though like security , management and hot desking that fall under my definition of cash strapped that I think would drive sales of this.
- BenjiWiebe 2y ago$350 gets some pretty awesome ex-office PCs. I've upgraded my friends/family/neighbors with them and only heard good things about them. (1st/2nd generation ryzen towers from ebay - typically with 8gb ram and a ssd.)
- ssl-3 2y agoSure. Used PCs can be a great bargain. But they're not new. And that can be an important distinction for a buyer -- including one who is operating on a budget.
- ndiddy 2y agoI think cash strapped offices won't be willing to pay $41/user/month for access to a dual-core system with 8 GB of RAM and 128 GB of storage. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365/business/compare-plans-pricing https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365/business/compare... You'd be able to get a refurbished office PC with better specs than that for around the $350 price point of the Windows 365 box.
- dagmx 2y agoI meant more cash strapped as in without a large IT resource to manage the systems versus just device cost.
- idolofdust 2y agoIs the value proposition of this just the implied simplicity of setup? This doesn't look like the best value.
- wannacboatmovie 2y ago> that somehow have great internet? We were running RDP and Citrix ICA over dial-up in the 90s. Unlike X or VNC, Windows protocols were designed to be low overhead. It wasn't great, but it worked.
- dagmx 2y agoThis is streaming dual 4k video streams from the cloud. The windows protocols don’t really matter here.
- hulitu 2y ago> This is streaming dual 4k video streams from the cloud. The windows protocols don’t really matter here. Compression was never an issue. Just look at youtube.
- dagmx 2y agoYouTube doesn’t have to deal with the same latency, or deal with representing lots of text. Streaming like this is much harder than folks pretend it is.
- PretzelPirate 2y agoI bet a lot of finance companies will love this. Many already make their developers use virtual development environments, and this takes away all management of physical machines. It might be a bit more successful if there was also a laptop version that cost the same.